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John Mearsheimer

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

We just want to make sure that we're number one.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

And my argument is that this is not peculiar to the United States.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

If I'm China, for example, today,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

I would want to dominate Asia the way the United States dominates the Western Hemisphere.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

They'd be fools not to.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

If I were Imperial Germany, I'd want to dominate all of Europe the way the United States dominates the Western Hemisphere.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

Why?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

Because if you dominate all of Europe, assuming you're Imperial Germany or Napoleonic France, then no other state in the area or in the region can threaten you because you're simply so powerful.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

And again, what I'm saying here is that the structure of the international system really matters.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

It's the fact that you're in this anarchic system where survival is your principal goal and where I can't know your intentions, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

You're another state.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

I can't know that at some point you might not come after me.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

You might.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

And if you're really powerful and I'm not, I'm in deep trouble.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

Well, I think for many centuries now, the big divide within the world of international relations theory is between realism and liberalism.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

These are time-honored

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

bodies of theory.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

And before I tell you what I think the differences are between those two bodies of theory, it is important to emphasize that there are differences among realists and differences among liberals.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

And so when you talk about me as an offensive realist, you should understand that there are also defensive realists out there, and there are a panoply of liberal theories as well.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#401 โ€“ John Mearsheimer: Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine, China, NATO, and WW3

But basically, realists believe that power matters, that states compete for power, and that war is an instrument of statecraft.