John Mearsheimer

You can't go to a situation where you give the Palestinians equal rights inside of greater Israel, in large part because there are now...

as many Palestinians as there are Israeli Jews.

And over time, the balance, the demographic balance, shifts against the Israeli Jews and in favor of the Palestinians, in which case you'll end up with a Palestinian state in greater Israel.

So, you know, democracy for all doesn't work.

The Israelis, I believe, are quite interested in ethnic cleansing.

I think they saw this...

This recent set of events is an opportunity to cleanse Gaza, but that's not going to happen.

The Jordanians and the Egyptians have made it clear that that's not happening.

The United States has now made it clear that that's not happening.

And the Palestinians will not leave.

They'll die in place.

So ethnic cleansing doesn't work.

So you're really left with two alternatives, a two-state solution or a greater Israel that is effectively an apartheid state.

I mean, that's what the occupation has led to.

And all sorts of people have been predicting this for a long, long time.

And you've now reached the point, you know, here in the United States, if you say that Israel is an apartheid state, that's going to get you into all sorts of trouble.

But the fact is that Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, and B'Tselem, which is the leading Israeli human rights group, all three of those institutions or organizations have issued

detailed reports making the case that Israel is an apartheid state.

Furthermore, if you read the Israeli media, right, all sorts of Israelis, including Israeli leaders,

refer to Israel as an apartheid state.