John Mearsheimer

Oh, and the tribes, you know, hate each other.

And in a funny way, that hatred almost never goes away.

And I guess there are some exceptions to that.

If you look at the Germans after World War II, they've gone a long way towards hatred.

reducing, I wouldn't want to say completely eliminating, but reducing a lot of the hatred that existed between Germans and their neighbors.

But that's really kind of an anomalous case.

I mean, you go around East Asia today and the hatred of Japan in a place like China, the hatred of Japan in a place like Korea, just not to be underestimated.

And so, but I think a lot of it just has to do with the fact that you're dealing with social groups that have crashed into each other at one point or another.

And there are those lingering effects.

And by the way, this gets back to our discussion a few minutes ago about trying to get a two-state solution between the Palestinians and the Israeli Jews now that you have had this horrible war, which is ongoing.

is it possible that you could have another genocide yes and i would argue that what you had in rwanda was a genocide right the holocaust is not the only genocide i believe the word genocide is used too loosely today uh and as you know lots of people

And I mean lots of people who are pro-Palestinian accuse the Israelis of engaging in genocide in Gaza.

I think what the Israelis are doing in Gaza represents a massacre.

I would use that term given the number of civilians that they've killed and the fact that they've been indiscriminate in terms of how they've been bombing Gaza.

But I would not use the word genocide there.

For me, a genocide is where one side attempts to eliminate another group from the planet.

I think that what happened with the Holocaust was clearly a genocide and that the Germans were bent on destroying all of European Jewry.

And if they could have gotten their hands on

Jews outside of Europe, they would have murdered them as well.

That's a genocide.