John Mellencamp

And they said, yeah, I heard that song.

And then all of a sudden the song would build and build and build and build and build and build.

And Michael Jackson would be number one or whoever.

And once SoundScan took over, if you were in a rock band, the record companies said, well, fuck this.

We're not even going to advertise in Indianapolis anymore.

The biggest...

are R&B stations and they're playing rap.

And that's where we're gonna service those people.

Because back then there was payola and all that stuff going on.

So there was like no money coming into Indianapolis all of a sudden where there used to be.

It was all going to New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, to all these R&B stations.

And then what was that thing called when you could download records for nothing?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then that started.

And then that really put us out of it, put all rock guys out of it.

It says, if you check the billboard charts right now,

I bet you'd be hard-pressed to find two rock bands in the top 100.

That's why I've decided, I don't mean to plug myself, but I...

They have been asking me, because I got tired of going on tour and being a cheerleader, which is what I was.