John Morgan

As a non-Christian, I'm trying to see how this text can be relevant to that challenge. I'm skeptical, not in the modern sense. I'm skeptical in the ancient sense. Skeptical means inquirer. I'm Socratic. I'm open. I want to learn and hear. There's an opportunity here because of the diversity of voices.

As a non-Christian, I'm trying to see how this text can be relevant to that challenge. I'm skeptical, not in the modern sense. I'm skeptical in the ancient sense. Skeptical means inquirer. I'm Socratic. I'm open. I want to learn and hear. There's an opportunity here because of the diversity of voices.

I have a sense of responsibility as a challenge to speak on behalf of the nones, the N-O-N-E-S's. Many people who are aware, because they come to my work, they're aware that there's something profoundly wrong, there's a meaning crisis going on, but they do not find an open sense of home.

I have a sense of responsibility as a challenge to speak on behalf of the nones, the N-O-N-E-S's. Many people who are aware, because they come to my work, they're aware that there's something profoundly wrong, there's a meaning crisis going on, but they do not find an open sense of home.

Not that anybody's rejecting them, but they just don't see the established institutions of the legacy religions, the axial religions, as viable for them.

Not that anybody's rejecting them, but they just don't see the established institutions of the legacy religions, the axial religions, as viable for them.

Moving away from ritual, I mean, John's engaging in a ritual, baptism. Like what do you mean?

Moving away from ritual, I mean, John's engaging in a ritual, baptism. Like what do you mean?

No, what I'm asking, I mean, I mean. The old ritual, perhaps I should say. Yeah, it's a new. It's a new ritual. There's a new ritual. That's an astonishing thing to me. Like if I wanted to, hey, you know what I've done? I've set up a new ritual. That's just a powerful thing.

No, what I'm asking, I mean, I mean. The old ritual, perhaps I should say. Yeah, it's a new. It's a new ritual. There's a new ritual. That's an astonishing thing to me. Like if I wanted to, hey, you know what I've done? I've set up a new ritual. That's just a powerful thing.

But it is new and it's a baptism for the forgiveness of sins. That's right. Like I don't see that anywhere else. Can I ask this question? For Christians, what does that mean to you to have somebody proposing a ritual that's They're supposed to give their forgiveness of sins before Jesus has even appeared.

But it is new and it's a baptism for the forgiveness of sins. That's right. Like I don't see that anywhere else. Can I ask this question? For Christians, what does that mean to you to have somebody proposing a ritual that's They're supposed to give their forgiveness of sins before Jesus has even appeared.

I wasn't talking about the baptism by John of Jesus, I think, and even the ritual baptism. I appreciate what you're saying about its psycho-spiritual capacities for transformation. I'm trying to, like, this seems to be an... I'm not denying the continuity, but there's an innovation here. And then I'm asking a question looking sort of from the outside. This seems problematic.

I wasn't talking about the baptism by John of Jesus, I think, and even the ritual baptism. I appreciate what you're saying about its psycho-spiritual capacities for transformation. I'm trying to, like, this seems to be an... I'm not denying the continuity, but there's an innovation here. And then I'm asking a question looking sort of from the outside. This seems problematic.

How is this the forgiveness of sins?

How is this the forgiveness of sins?

Well, I just wanted to pick up on what Dennis said though. I mean, I'm a little bit hesitant of going from the title of Son of God immediately because Son of God is used of other figures, even figures like the kings in the Old Testament. And secondly, if this story is so central, why is it absent from Mark and why does Paul never talk about it? That's problematic.

Well, I just wanted to pick up on what Dennis said though. I mean, I'm a little bit hesitant of going from the title of Son of God immediately because Son of God is used of other figures, even figures like the kings in the Old Testament. And secondly, if this story is so central, why is it absent from Mark and why does Paul never talk about it? That's problematic.

I mean, if it's such a central thing that you're claiming it is, Mark doesn't even consider it, and Paul never refers to it.

I mean, if it's such a central thing that you're claiming it is, Mark doesn't even consider it, and Paul never refers to it.