John Morgan

For now, the priority is on this still unfolding crisis and the needs of the many, many people who've lost their homes.

Well, it's tragically familiar. When you look at the global sweep of these things, the steady heating of the planet and the intensification of fire in all kinds of places from southern Europe to northern Canada to California... You know, you can see the pattern.

Well, it's tragically familiar. When you look at the global sweep of these things, the steady heating of the planet and the intensification of fire in all kinds of places from southern Europe to northern Canada to California... You know, you can see the pattern.

And yet for the people who are being driven out of their homes with nothing to come back to in Pasadena and Hollywood and Santa Monica, it's new and shocking. And you're seeing these quotes of people saying, I've never seen anything like this. I can't believe this. This has never happened here before. Even though they're really from the capital of disastrous fire, which is California and

And yet for the people who are being driven out of their homes with nothing to come back to in Pasadena and Hollywood and Santa Monica, it's new and shocking. And you're seeing these quotes of people saying, I've never seen anything like this. I can't believe this. This has never happened here before. Even though they're really from the capital of disastrous fire, which is California and

I'm surprised that they're surprised. It's life changing, for one thing. And if you saw these regions that burned over the past 24 hours, You know, it's earthquake prone, it's fire prone, and yet it draws charismatic, creative people. But this reckoning with the destruction and seeing that it really can go, that it really can be taken from you is profound.

I'm surprised that they're surprised. It's life changing, for one thing. And if you saw these regions that burned over the past 24 hours, You know, it's earthquake prone, it's fire prone, and yet it draws charismatic, creative people. But this reckoning with the destruction and seeing that it really can go, that it really can be taken from you is profound.

And the people I've interviewed, especially up in Canada and Northern California, where I did most of my interviewing a few years ago, it's really like a death in the family. And it comes so suddenly, it's very psychically disorienting because your home, especially if you've lived there for a while, especially if you've raised children there, that's where all your memories are.

And the people I've interviewed, especially up in Canada and Northern California, where I did most of my interviewing a few years ago, it's really like a death in the family. And it comes so suddenly, it's very psychically disorienting because your home, especially if you've lived there for a while, especially if you've raised children there, that's where all your memories are.

That's your memory palace. And when that is gone, when it's a pile of ash, you realize then how much our psyches and memories are attached to objects and place. Do people leave? Yes, they do. Absolutely. There are climate refugees all over the U.S. now. And some of them, in fact, moved to the mountains of North Carolina to because they thought that would be a climate stable place.

That's your memory palace. And when that is gone, when it's a pile of ash, you realize then how much our psyches and memories are attached to objects and place. Do people leave? Yes, they do. Absolutely. There are climate refugees all over the U.S. now. And some of them, in fact, moved to the mountains of North Carolina to because they thought that would be a climate stable place.

And then Hurricane Helen came along a couple of months ago and wiped it out. And, you know, when people ask me, I'm touring around talking about fire weather, they say, where should we go? And I say, there's nowhere to go. You need to stay in the place that means the most to you and figure out how to harden it against the the plausible threats to it.

And then Hurricane Helen came along a couple of months ago and wiped it out. And, you know, when people ask me, I'm touring around talking about fire weather, they say, where should we go? And I say, there's nowhere to go. You need to stay in the place that means the most to you and figure out how to harden it against the the plausible threats to it.

Well, there's a multi-pronged approach, and the larger societal cultural move is to decarbonize as rapidly as possible. In the meantime, this is a stern invitation to reacquaint ourselves with nature and to be reminded that whatever business we're in, whatever venture we're engaged with, nature owns 51% of it, at least.

Well, there's a multi-pronged approach, and the larger societal cultural move is to decarbonize as rapidly as possible. In the meantime, this is a stern invitation to reacquaint ourselves with nature and to be reminded that whatever business we're in, whatever venture we're engaged with, nature owns 51% of it, at least.

And if we're going to get anywhere, if we're going to find any peace or stability, we have to renegotiate our relationship to nature.

And if we're going to get anywhere, if we're going to find any peace or stability, we have to renegotiate our relationship to nature.

And still to come on the Global News Podcast... You know, the wind blowing, tarp tearing, the wind's knocking stuff down.

And still to come on the Global News Podcast... You know, the wind blowing, tarp tearing, the wind's knocking stuff down.

Yeah, and that's ridiculous because it's in the middle of winter and we don't really got nowhere to go.