John Nunemaker

Yep. DB, Dan Benjamin. Here we go. And so, yeah, Dan was looking, I think, for a good home. Like he had, he'd went around to like, I think, and talk to like a lot of people. He's obviously well-known in the podcasting space and stuff like that.

Yep. DB, Dan Benjamin. Here we go. And so, yeah, Dan was looking, I think, for a good home. Like he had, he'd went around to like, I think, and talk to like a lot of people. He's obviously well-known in the podcasting space and stuff like that.

And he was like looking for someone who could take it over, who would like do the customers right, who would like push the app forward, who would do new things, not just harvest it and shut it down. And so he mentioned something to Garrett and Garrett has been a founder. Garrett Diamond has been a founder in the past. Now I'm going to get those names every time. So I'm ready. I'm trained.

And he was like looking for someone who could take it over, who would like do the customers right, who would like push the app forward, who would do new things, not just harvest it and shut it down. And so he mentioned something to Garrett and Garrett has been a founder. Garrett Diamond has been a founder in the past. Now I'm going to get those names every time. So I'm ready. I'm trained.

Diamond, Garrett. And so I was like, he was like, you know, I don't want to do this by myself. Like, but like maybe John would be interested. So he reached out and and then we, you know, there's a lot of name, please.

Diamond, Garrett. And so I was like, he was like, you know, I don't want to do this by myself. Like, but like maybe John would be interested. So he reached out and and then we, you know, there's a lot of name, please.

Diamond cup Garrett.

Diamond cup Garrett.

I'm a little slow on the uptake, man. I'm not pros like you guys. Sorry. So yeah. So that's kind of like how it kind of came about. And we're like, well, hey, if we can get this one, I bet there's a lot more. Now, I don't know that we're ready to just go in there and we're not taking on outside investors. We're not making a fund. We're not going to be private equity where we

I'm a little slow on the uptake, man. I'm not pros like you guys. Sorry. So yeah. So that's kind of like how it kind of came about. And we're like, well, hey, if we can get this one, I bet there's a lot more. Now, I don't know that we're ready to just go in there and we're not taking on outside investors. We're not making a fund. We're not going to be private equity where we

you know, have like management and carry or whatever and all that kind of stuff. Like we're just going to build like a nice portfolio of small things. We're starting with Flipper and Fireside because we already had Flipper. We were able to get Fireside. And now it's like there's probably a whole lot more out there. People have been...

you know, have like management and carry or whatever and all that kind of stuff. Like we're just going to build like a nice portfolio of small things. We're starting with Flipper and Fireside because we already had Flipper. We were able to get Fireside. And now it's like there's probably a whole lot more out there. People have been...

working hard for four to eight years or longer, they're in the 10 to whatever, 50,000. They're over the 10K mark a month. And so they've proven that there's a decent amount of value out there for it, for whatever they're building. But they're not so big that we have to go out and get millions of dollars to acquire it and stuff like that.

working hard for four to eight years or longer, they're in the 10 to whatever, 50,000. They're over the 10K mark a month. And so they've proven that there's a decent amount of value out there for it, for whatever they're building. But they're not so big that we have to go out and get millions of dollars to acquire it and stuff like that.

And they're just looking for liquidity and to move on to something else. It's hard. You guys have been doing it forever. So props on that front. But I'm like, it's really hard to do the same thing for a long time. So that's kind of my theory. And even after announcing Fireside and being at Railsworld, I feel like I had three or four people come up to me who were like, I'm in that boat right now.

And they're just looking for liquidity and to move on to something else. It's hard. You guys have been doing it forever. So props on that front. But I'm like, it's really hard to do the same thing for a long time. So that's kind of my theory. And even after announcing Fireside and being at Railsworld, I feel like I had three or four people come up to me who were like, I'm in that boat right now.

which is really interesting. So I think we're going to let the dust settle on this one and see if we actually are any good at this. I feel like we will be, but yeah, that's kind of how it, how it kind of came about, I guess is the thesis came from, look, we know rails, we know standardizing things across multiple apps. Cause I've never done one thing.

which is really interesting. So I think we're going to let the dust settle on this one and see if we actually are any good at this. I feel like we will be, but yeah, that's kind of how it, how it kind of came about, I guess is the thesis came from, look, we know rails, we know standardizing things across multiple apps. Cause I've never done one thing.

I've always had three things at a time and then I get too busy and I think, Oh, I should get rid of one of them. And so I get rid of one of them and then I fill it with another one. So I finally accepted. That's just me. I'm just going to have three things.

I've always had three things at a time and then I get too busy and I think, Oh, I should get rid of one of them. And so I get rid of one of them and then I fill it with another one. So I finally accepted. That's just me. I'm just going to have three things.