John O'Shull

And because I just can't sit still, Nathan, I had to do something else.

I ran into a private equity firm called Global Environment Funds, GEF, and they had derived systems.

And they somehow convinced me to come on board.

And as we were talking earlier,

My first day on the gig, March the 16th, 2020.

And if everybody remembers that, that's when we said, hey, everybody lock ourselves in a room for three weeks and we'll flatten the curve.

So I walked in the door and I said, hey, I'm John.

Everybody go home.

Let's unpack this story here real quick.

So 2018, you sold SwiftPage.

Now, were you running SwiftPage on behalf of a private equity firm or did you own a majority of that business?

Um, we, we were running, uh, yes, we were running that on, on behalf of a private equity firm, a couple, a couple of firms, uh, Excel KKR, Jump Capital, uh, were, were the main players in, uh, in SwiftPage at that time.

And so just to close out that story, what did you guys sell it for to SFW?

I can't give you the exact number, but I will tell you that everybody was extremely, extremely, extremely happy.

Can you give me a massive range that won't get you in trouble, above or below $100 million?

Let's just say $100 million is, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Somewhere in there.

Okay.

Somewhere in that role.