John Palfrey

I would just add that to your question, is it too late to be an optimist around these technologies?

I think it's naive to be just an optimist.

I think we need to be a realist about the technology.

I think in some areas, you mentioned a few kids' safety, which we could get around to.

We should be skeptics, not even realists.

But is the opportunity that is afforded by these digital technologies something that could touch every human on the planet?

Of course not.

It could touch all of us in our pockets in this moment, even in relatively poor countries where people have mobile technologies.

This is a technology that could be helpful for opportunities.

So

I think the answer to your question is don't blindly believe what you're being sold by people who have something to sell you, but absolutely feel that there is something that you could use and do because actually on the upside of this, the opportunity side still remains that for any human, they have more access to more information, more opportunity in a variety of different ways by virtue of what's in their pocket than ever before.

And we shouldn't lose sight of those possibilities.

They just aren't front and center right now.

Yeah, a couple of things.

And I was smiling as you and Michelle were talking about the early days of Craigslist or eBay or other early technologies.

So I'm thinking about 25 years ago.

And the approach that we all took was to say, let's let a thousand flowers bloom.

Let's have basically no regulation.

Let's see how this goes.

And there were positive things that came of that.