John R. Miles

And there's no wonder people feel so exhausted and overwhelmed.

When our time left, I wanted to give the audience a couple of practical tools.

So since becoming a mom, you focused on helping a lot of parents raise more optimistic children.

What are the most important things parents can do to cultivate resilience and optimism in their kids?

And the last thing I just wanted to briefly touch on is your chapter 10, which is really about the science of self-care.

And one of the things that you had in here is I'm a huge fan of Dacher Keltner, University of California, Berkeley.

And he writes a lot about awe and how do you experience an everyday life?

And I love his concept of moral beauty.

I've probably talked about it more than any other concept.

And I actually, in my children's book, put this into life because I've created a whole platform called Pass the Ripple, where his moral beauty is all about everyday acts of kindness or how you experience awe in the most pervasive way.

And you can do it every day.

So I thought, what a great way to teach kids that they can experience awe by performing.

acts of kindness and acts of kindness is something that you like to talk about as well.

So I was hoping we might be able to end here and what practices do you suggest that listeners can do to implement this more in their everyday life?

And lastly, for listeners who have tuned in today and want to learn more about you, your practice and where they can get the book, which will be everywhere here in a couple of days, where's the best place to go?

Well, it was such an honor to have you on the show today and congratulations on this fantastic book, The Power of Real Optimism.

That brings us to the end of today's conversation with Deepika Chopra.

And what stood out most to me is this.

We often think optimism means believing everything will turn out exactly as we hope.

But Deepika reminds us something far wiser.