John R. Miles

When you were making this decision, did it feel like you were gaining control or more like you were acknowledging uncertainty?

Yeah, and emotions are something I love to talk about on the podcast.

And you just talked about you were giving yourself agency, but I'm wondering, was there any grief alongside that agency?

Kind of grief for how complicated this choice had to be?

Yeah.

And part of the reason I was asking it that way is I think there's a cultural narrative, as I've been studying to prepare for this interview, that egg freezing is like something that's sad or a last resort.

But you've said it was empowering.

Why the difference for you?

Okay, and you've brought up agency a couple of times now.

What does agency really mean to you?

Is this decision beyond biology or timing?

Why is it agency?

Yeah.

The reason I was asking it is because I talk a lot about our need to matter on this podcast.

And to me, agency is often what restores matter and when circumstances feel constraining.

Is that kind of how this felt for you?

So I was recently speaking to one of your constituents, Brent Gleason, who's a retired Navy SEAL, lives in San Diego.

And we were talking about his new book, All In.

Did this choice change how you think about being all in your own life?

Shots never are.