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John Ruich

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Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

Yeah, DeepSeek is a spinoff from a Chinese hedge fund. It was established just two years ago in 2023. And it's based in the eastern city of Hangzhou, which is sort of a tech hub here in China.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

Yeah, DeepSeek is a spinoff from a Chinese hedge fund. It was established just two years ago in 2023. And it's based in the eastern city of Hangzhou, which is sort of a tech hub here in China.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

And in a nutshell, what they did was hire a bunch of top-notch engineers and develop new algorithms, basically more efficient ways of training and running artificial intelligence with less computational power.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

And in a nutshell, what they did was hire a bunch of top-notch engineers and develop new algorithms, basically more efficient ways of training and running artificial intelligence with less computational power.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

And in a nutshell, what they did was hire a bunch of top-notch engineers and develop new algorithms, basically more efficient ways of training and running artificial intelligence with less computational power.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

Well, the product is said to rival tools from competitors like OpenAI and Google in terms of what it can do, things like analyzing data and solving complex problems. It's impressed a lot of people. It rattled markets.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

Well, the product is said to rival tools from competitors like OpenAI and Google in terms of what it can do, things like analyzing data and solving complex problems. It's impressed a lot of people. It rattled markets.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

Well, the product is said to rival tools from competitors like OpenAI and Google in terms of what it can do, things like analyzing data and solving complex problems. It's impressed a lot of people. It rattled markets.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

And what rattled the markets is the narrative, which comes with some caveats, that DeepSeek basically did it all cheaper, quicker, and with less powerful microprocessors than its big competitors.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

And what rattled the markets is the narrative, which comes with some caveats, that DeepSeek basically did it all cheaper, quicker, and with less powerful microprocessors than its big competitors.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

And what rattled the markets is the narrative, which comes with some caveats, that DeepSeek basically did it all cheaper, quicker, and with less powerful microprocessors than its big competitors.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

Sure, the first one is around cost. DeepSeek says that it spent under $6 million to make this thing. That's tiny relative to the hundreds of millions of dollars that others are investing, even billions. But analysts say that that low figure is easy to misinterpret because it doesn't include, for instance, the cost of developing various versions from which this latest version was distilled.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

Sure, the first one is around cost. DeepSeek says that it spent under $6 million to make this thing. That's tiny relative to the hundreds of millions of dollars that others are investing, even billions. But analysts say that that low figure is easy to misinterpret because it doesn't include, for instance, the cost of developing various versions from which this latest version was distilled.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

Sure, the first one is around cost. DeepSeek says that it spent under $6 million to make this thing. That's tiny relative to the hundreds of millions of dollars that others are investing, even billions. But analysts say that that low figure is easy to misinterpret because it doesn't include, for instance, the cost of developing various versions from which this latest version was distilled.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

So we really don't know what the total development cost was, how inexpensive it was. The second caveat is It has to do with the hardware, has to do with the chips that are critical to developing AI.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

So we really don't know what the total development cost was, how inexpensive it was. The second caveat is It has to do with the hardware, has to do with the chips that are critical to developing AI.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

So we really don't know what the total development cost was, how inexpensive it was. The second caveat is It has to do with the hardware, has to do with the chips that are critical to developing AI.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

It's tricky. You know, the chips that really matter for AI are made by NVIDIA, which, by the way, took a massive tumble on the stock market after the deep-seek news. Back in 2022, NVIDIA were told they couldn't sell their best product to China. Of course, some of those chips were already there. Some may have leaked in.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

It's tricky. You know, the chips that really matter for AI are made by NVIDIA, which, by the way, took a massive tumble on the stock market after the deep-seek news. Back in 2022, NVIDIA were told they couldn't sell their best product to China. Of course, some of those chips were already there. Some may have leaked in.

Up First from NPR
Justice Department Firings, Humanitarian Parole Ends, China And AI

It's tricky. You know, the chips that really matter for AI are made by NVIDIA, which, by the way, took a massive tumble on the stock market after the deep-seek news. Back in 2022, NVIDIA were told they couldn't sell their best product to China. Of course, some of those chips were already there. Some may have leaked in.