John Siracusa

I just want to pause here for a second and ask the longtime ATP listeners, how long into that story did you figure out that Casey was going to tell us that he dropped his phone again?

That is a great measure.

Obviously, Marco and I are cheating because we see the show notes and we know where he's going with this.

But I'm just curious for the people listening.

You're listening.

Casey's winding up.

He's got a big wind up on his pitches.

He's going along.

When did you figure out, oh, Casey dropped his phone again, didn't he?

Was it hike?

Was it just like going on vacation?

Was it middle of nowhere?

Get some new shorts with bigger pockets.

Get pockets with zippers.

Something, anything.

no no it's it's no yeah i think it's isn't that millennial thing i think it is no it's absolutely much younger than us all right well anyway i i say you can say it i declare that you can say it oh thanks dad because it because it's because it's out of style now so it's suitably unfashionable exactly well and definitely i mean it's definitely out of style now that we're using it precisely right so you can tell yeah

No, no, no.

Hold on.

I'm just saying that the screen on that one is not going to be as durable as this one.

I guess it's good that he can close it so when it's closed, like, the screen won't be – there'll be an outer screen.