John Siracusa

Um, and the, the battery sizes are unchanged on these models.

The 14 inch is still 72.4 watt hour for both of them, I believe.

So it seems like basically a wash, but again, these, these, the numbers that Apple always gives you with battery is like, we don't know how you perform these tests.

What the heck is wireless web?

Like, what are you doing?

So as usual battery testing, well, I'm sure we'll be all over the place, but, uh, it will be instructive to see how these new, uh,

We keep saying template architecture.

It's probably the wrong term, but it's a nice way to visualize more than one die inside the package.

How will they behave in terms of thermals, battery life?

To Marco's point, how does the change in ratios of big to little cores affect things?

You're not going to tell from looking at these battery numbers.

We'll have to wait for people to test them.

Oh, yeah, you skipped over the 16-inch battery.

It's interesting that the 16-inch battery is exactly the same for the M5 Pro, but the 16-inch battery is plus two hours on wireless web and plus one hour on video streaming for the Max.

I don't understand.

Like, they didn't change the battery size at all.

So why does the Max and the 14-inch go down an hour and the Max and the 16-inch goes up an hour?

Like, it's very weird.

I just, I don't quite understand.

If they had changed the battery sizes, this would make sense to me, but it's, I mean...