John Siracusa

Yeah.

Apple can mix and match them, but it's not like it's going to be a configurator where you pick how many cores and they manufactured on demand for you or something.

They just picked a bunch of configs they think fit the lineup and they spread them out.

And I think it is reasonable.

Maybe the most egregious thing is like limiting of the RAM on the chips with less GPU, but they kind of always do that.

But in the grand scheme of things, it is a better year than normal because the pro chip has the same CPU as the max chip, as long as you don't need that extra RAM.

Usually you see like Apple, you know,

for better or for worse mostly for setting naming trends like pro and max which suddenly appeared on every other thing in the universe app or apple started using not because they're good names but just because apple essentially made them have good values associated with them by naming their products so then yeah but in this case they're bringing neo is you know has been in product names for ages even yes even before the matrix um

And it is again, but if this trend catches on and people start calling their products Neo, I think people will attribute it to Apple.

But other people have been out there first.

It's just a question of like when Apple does it, it seems cool and people copy it.

Because it's only in the M5.

And everything except for the M5 Pro and Max, the old names still apply.

I mean, John, how would you like to, there's a lot of numbers in our show notes here, but so like the iPhone 16 pro is the max is the stand in because it's got the same thing.

It's got an 18 pro and I picked the pro max instead of the pro figuring like it's the biggest.

So it's the closest analog to a laptop because I don't know, there's more room inside it or whatever.

Um,

So we'll have to see what the actual benchmarks are because for all we know, it is clocked higher, it has better cooling, and we don't know.

But using just the phone, Pro Max is a stand-in, which I think is a reasonable kind of like conservative estimate of how this chip is going to perform in a laptop scenario, assuming they didn't really screw up the cooling.

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