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John Smith

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34416 total appearances

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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

You didn't care about me, my family, my children. So therefore, we have nothing to say to each other. But I decided while I was in fire camp from talking to miscellaneous people, when you make it to that low level, you end up being in there with some people that know a bunch of stuff you don't know. And that's how I met this guy. And I met a lot of people.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

But one guy in particular named Evan, he was like walking laps with me. We talked a lot. You know, telling stories and stuff like that. I knew he had money, but he didn't brag about having money. You can just tell. He never missed commissary, but he used to like to smoke that Bugler.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

But one guy in particular named Evan, he was like walking laps with me. We talked a lot. You know, telling stories and stuff like that. I knew he had money, but he didn't brag about having money. You can just tell. He never missed commissary, but he used to like to smoke that Bugler.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

But one guy in particular named Evan, he was like walking laps with me. We talked a lot. You know, telling stories and stuff like that. I knew he had money, but he didn't brag about having money. You can just tell. He never missed commissary, but he used to like to smoke that Bugler.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

And at this time, that Bugler, which is those cigarettes that you roll up yourself, people that smoke that kind of have bad nerves because you're sneaking around to smoke cigarettes in jail and these cigarettes are illegal. They're illegal. Contraband. Contraband, yeah, that's what it is, contraband. So if you get caught with it, you'll lose good time. But I don't smoke. I have never smoked.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

And at this time, that Bugler, which is those cigarettes that you roll up yourself, people that smoke that kind of have bad nerves because you're sneaking around to smoke cigarettes in jail and these cigarettes are illegal. They're illegal. Contraband. Contraband, yeah, that's what it is, contraband. So if you get caught with it, you'll lose good time. But I don't smoke. I have never smoked.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

And at this time, that Bugler, which is those cigarettes that you roll up yourself, people that smoke that kind of have bad nerves because you're sneaking around to smoke cigarettes in jail and these cigarettes are illegal. They're illegal. Contraband. Contraband, yeah, that's what it is, contraband. So if you get caught with it, you'll lose good time. But I don't smoke. I have never smoked.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

The most I've smoked was some weed. But he asked me when I was getting out, he asked me would I be able to meet up with his sister and give her a few cans of Bugler. And we talked about linking up when he'd get out, but I didn't realize he was getting deported. So once he got out, he was going to get deported.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

The most I've smoked was some weed. But he asked me when I was getting out, he asked me would I be able to meet up with his sister and give her a few cans of Bugler. And we talked about linking up when he'd get out, but I didn't realize he was getting deported. So once he got out, he was going to get deported.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

The most I've smoked was some weed. But he asked me when I was getting out, he asked me would I be able to meet up with his sister and give her a few cans of Bugler. And we talked about linking up when he'd get out, but I didn't realize he was getting deported. So once he got out, he was going to get deported.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

I don't think he knew either because had he known, they wouldn't have took him to a fire camp because he could have did a walk away. So what I did was I – He's like, you sure you're going to do it, man? I don't think you're going to do it because I asked four or five guys that go home. And the Bugler was $17 a can. It's $17 a can in 2009, right? 2009, about 17. No, 2008. Yeah, 2008 or 2009.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

I don't think he knew either because had he known, they wouldn't have took him to a fire camp because he could have did a walk away. So what I did was I – He's like, you sure you're going to do it, man? I don't think you're going to do it because I asked four or five guys that go home. And the Bugler was $17 a can. It's $17 a can in 2009, right? 2009, about 17. No, 2008. Yeah, 2008 or 2009.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

I don't think he knew either because had he known, they wouldn't have took him to a fire camp because he could have did a walk away. So what I did was I – He's like, you sure you're going to do it, man? I don't think you're going to do it because I asked four or five guys that go home. And the Bugler was $17 a can. It's $17 a can in 2009, right? 2009, about 17. No, 2008. Yeah, 2008 or 2009.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

So I was like, I'll do it. I'll give him the Bugler. He's like, no, you're not. You're not going to do it. You're not going to do it. So I got out. First week I was out, I had a sister. I was like, hello. Are you going to see him? OK, well, he wants some buglers. She's like, I know. I don't know why he likes that stuff. I was like, I can meet you or your other sister and I'll give it to you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

So I was like, I'll do it. I'll give him the Bugler. He's like, no, you're not. You're not going to do it. You're not going to do it. So I got out. First week I was out, I had a sister. I was like, hello. Are you going to see him? OK, well, he wants some buglers. She's like, I know. I don't know why he likes that stuff. I was like, I can meet you or your other sister and I'll give it to you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

So I was like, I'll do it. I'll give him the Bugler. He's like, no, you're not. You're not going to do it. You're not going to do it. So I got out. First week I was out, I had a sister. I was like, hello. Are you going to see him? OK, well, he wants some buglers. She's like, I know. I don't know why he likes that stuff. I was like, I can meet you or your other sister and I'll give it to you.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

So I gave him that a couple of lighters and all this stuff. So I did it. I actually delivered from there. He said, thank you so much. You kept your word. Now call these people and they got your back. And like, well, what do you mean by that? Like I said, while we were in prison, we were fighting fires together. We were eating together sometimes.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

So I gave him that a couple of lighters and all this stuff. So I did it. I actually delivered from there. He said, thank you so much. You kept your word. Now call these people and they got your back. And like, well, what do you mean by that? Like I said, while we were in prison, we were fighting fires together. We were eating together sometimes.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

So I gave him that a couple of lighters and all this stuff. So I did it. I actually delivered from there. He said, thank you so much. You kept your word. Now call these people and they got your back. And like, well, what do you mean by that? Like I said, while we were in prison, we were fighting fires together. We were eating together sometimes.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How Hackers Sell Your Stolen Info | Underground Credit Card Markets

I mean, I'm kind of like learning each other's lifestyles. He was a different nationality from a whole nother country. So therefore, you know. I didn't know if he was serious or not, but when he gave me the contact information to the people who gave it to me for it was amazing because all they had was money plays up that didn't consist of anything drug related.