John Sweetman

And it's funny because every time I walk up here, I come up whatever street it is.

I come up off Graff Street and then cross over.

There's a little post box and it's written on that, don't forget to remember.

And I copped that not long after I started coming in here doing the episodes.

And I said, Jesus, I must, like, that's what you don't forget to remember, like, you know, and I think it's very important.

And I think that's what we try to do with the cases.

Yeah.

You know, not to forget, like, you know, that these are real people that you're dealing with.

Yeah, that's their story.

Yeah.

Absolutely, 100%.

Yeah, like, I mean, you'll get people saying, and rightly so, that, you know, DNA is fantastic.

DNA as a means of identification is just incredible and just keeps getting better and better and better.

But identical twins will have the same DNA, whereas they won't have the same fingerprints.

And there's so many factors involved in it that we used to have to go through a spiel for court, explain it in layman's terms.

Because you know the skin on your hands and the skin on your feet and that is that kind of rough thing with the patterns and all that sort of stuff.

Well, all those patterns form

you know, after about 16 weeks gestation of the fetus or whatever.

And there's so many factors involved with how they will form the patterns.

It could be anything from the diet of the mother or it could be anything like with the way the fetus is lying in the womb, all these sort of things.