John T. Downey

I mean, they've been listening to his communications, right? They knew this Jack guy.

I mean, they've been listening to his communications, right? They knew this Jack guy.

I mean, they've been listening to his communications, right? They knew this Jack guy.

That's pretty creepy to sit in an office and decide that you're going to tell the parents of a guy that he's dead and gone when you know completely the opposite.

That's pretty creepy to sit in an office and decide that you're going to tell the parents of a guy that he's dead and gone when you know completely the opposite.

That's pretty creepy to sit in an office and decide that you're going to tell the parents of a guy that he's dead and gone when you know completely the opposite.

How do things proceed from this point? Is there an effort from the U.S. to get these guys home, or do they just ignore it at that point?

How do things proceed from this point? Is there an effort from the U.S. to get these guys home, or do they just ignore it at that point?

How do things proceed from this point? Is there an effort from the U.S. to get these guys home, or do they just ignore it at that point?

Yeah, this does not stand alone. I mean, this sort of thing happened and continues to happen, but this is pretty out there circumstances. We've introduced an important person. I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of this guy, but Alan Dulles. You fly into Dulles Airport, most Americans have no clue that that's the name and where that comes from.

Yeah, this does not stand alone. I mean, this sort of thing happened and continues to happen, but this is pretty out there circumstances. We've introduced an important person. I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of this guy, but Alan Dulles. You fly into Dulles Airport, most Americans have no clue that that's the name and where that comes from.

Yeah, this does not stand alone. I mean, this sort of thing happened and continues to happen, but this is pretty out there circumstances. We've introduced an important person. I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of this guy, but Alan Dulles. You fly into Dulles Airport, most Americans have no clue that that's the name and where that comes from.

But these guys really were the craftsmen behind this kind of CIA, weren't they?

But these guys really were the craftsmen behind this kind of CIA, weren't they?

But these guys really were the craftsmen behind this kind of CIA, weren't they?

Well, the backdrop of all of this are these geopolitical events around the world, all of what's happening in Eastern Europe, et cetera, et cetera. But in the midst of it all, you have this single human being that your book is about, Jack Downey. How does he bear up under this kind of pressure and deal with the imprisonment extending without knowing where it's going?

Well, the backdrop of all of this are these geopolitical events around the world, all of what's happening in Eastern Europe, et cetera, et cetera. But in the midst of it all, you have this single human being that your book is about, Jack Downey. How does he bear up under this kind of pressure and deal with the imprisonment extending without knowing where it's going?

Well, the backdrop of all of this are these geopolitical events around the world, all of what's happening in Eastern Europe, et cetera, et cetera. But in the midst of it all, you have this single human being that your book is about, Jack Downey. How does he bear up under this kind of pressure and deal with the imprisonment extending without knowing where it's going?

He refused to learn Chinese, which I find fascinating. I mean, how would you not learn it after all that time? But that was an important part of his strategy, wasn't it?

He refused to learn Chinese, which I find fascinating. I mean, how would you not learn it after all that time? But that was an important part of his strategy, wasn't it?