John Wilmes

I think he coached like middle school basketball or something like that. And they put a really good staff together around him. And man, I mean, they've just been doing a great job.

I think he coached like middle school basketball or something like that. And they put a really good staff together around him. And man, I mean, they've just been doing a great job.

I think he coached like middle school basketball or something like that. And they put a really good staff together around him. And man, I mean, they've just been doing a great job.

Yeah. Guys, stick around after the break. John and I are going to go a little bit deep on Giannis and Jokic and the seasons that they're in and the purgatory that faces them this summer.

Yeah. Guys, stick around after the break. John and I are going to go a little bit deep on Giannis and Jokic and the seasons that they're in and the purgatory that faces them this summer.

Yeah. Guys, stick around after the break. John and I are going to go a little bit deep on Giannis and Jokic and the seasons that they're in and the purgatory that faces them this summer.

In any other season, if the Nuggets or the Bucs were the one seed in their conference, Giannis or Jokic would be the frontrunners for MVP with the numbers that they're putting up this year. I mean, Jokic is now on a five-year run of having the best season ever played. for anyone five years in a row. I mean, he could have just won every single MVP award.

In any other season, if the Nuggets or the Bucs were the one seed in their conference, Giannis or Jokic would be the frontrunners for MVP with the numbers that they're putting up this year. I mean, Jokic is now on a five-year run of having the best season ever played. for anyone five years in a row. I mean, he could have just won every single MVP award.

In any other season, if the Nuggets or the Bucs were the one seed in their conference, Giannis or Jokic would be the frontrunners for MVP with the numbers that they're putting up this year. I mean, Jokic is now on a five-year run of having the best season ever played. for anyone five years in a row. I mean, he could have just won every single MVP award.

Obviously, this year, it feels like it's Shea's award to lose, and I actually agree with that. I like the idea of best player on the best team, and especially because you can't argue against Shea's numbers. It's not like he's putting up 23 a game or something like that. I mean, he's putting up legitimate MVP numbers. He is going to win the MVP, and I think rightfully.

Obviously, this year, it feels like it's Shea's award to lose, and I actually agree with that. I like the idea of best player on the best team, and especially because you can't argue against Shea's numbers. It's not like he's putting up 23 a game or something like that. I mean, he's putting up legitimate MVP numbers. He is going to win the MVP, and I think rightfully.

Obviously, this year, it feels like it's Shea's award to lose, and I actually agree with that. I like the idea of best player on the best team, and especially because you can't argue against Shea's numbers. It's not like he's putting up 23 a game or something like that. I mean, he's putting up legitimate MVP numbers. He is going to win the MVP, and I think rightfully.

And I think Shea is an identity maker.

And I think Shea is an identity maker.

And I think Shea is an identity maker.

And I think it is a narrative award, right? More so. Baseball, man, I always go back to the season that A-Rod won the MVP on a 50-win team. That is a bad idea if you're trying to tell the story of the season with the award. And I think that's what the MVP should do. So Shea is the story. The Oklahoma City Thunder are the story. Perfect award winner. But...

And I think it is a narrative award, right? More so. Baseball, man, I always go back to the season that A-Rod won the MVP on a 50-win team. That is a bad idea if you're trying to tell the story of the season with the award. And I think that's what the MVP should do. So Shea is the story. The Oklahoma City Thunder are the story. Perfect award winner. But...

And I think it is a narrative award, right? More so. Baseball, man, I always go back to the season that A-Rod won the MVP on a 50-win team. That is a bad idea if you're trying to tell the story of the season with the award. And I think that's what the MVP should do. So Shea is the story. The Oklahoma City Thunder are the story. Perfect award winner. But...

For both Giannis and Jokic, I think that this is an important playoff run. I mean, you know, Jokic, we saw them just have disappointment the last couple seasons since they won. This season has not gone to plan for them. I think it's been more of a struggle than a lot of us expected, especially considering we felt like they were at full health. You described this to me as MVPs in purgatory.

For both Giannis and Jokic, I think that this is an important playoff run. I mean, you know, Jokic, we saw them just have disappointment the last couple seasons since they won. This season has not gone to plan for them. I think it's been more of a struggle than a lot of us expected, especially considering we felt like they were at full health. You described this to me as MVPs in purgatory.