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John Wojciech

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48 total appearances

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SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Little word called sovereignty. Yeah, I mean, you know, the way that things work, unfortunately, perhaps is not as you've described. I've been asked previously, like, why can't the UN mobilize some sort of a cross-border effort to, you know, launch an offensive on, you know, what's happening on the Thai-Myanmar border, for instance, right?

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Little word called sovereignty. Yeah, I mean, you know, the way that things work, unfortunately, perhaps is not as you've described. I've been asked previously, like, why can't the UN mobilize some sort of a cross-border effort to, you know, launch an offensive on, you know, what's happening on the Thai-Myanmar border, for instance, right?

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

First and foremost, we don't have that capability and we don't have that mandate. We are a law enforcement adjacent agency. We don't conduct operations or investigations. Secondly, UN peacekeeping forces wouldn't be drawn into that kind of a conflict. And at the end of the day, from my understanding, they would need to be invited by the host government.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

First and foremost, we don't have that capability and we don't have that mandate. We are a law enforcement adjacent agency. We don't conduct operations or investigations. Secondly, UN peacekeeping forces wouldn't be drawn into that kind of a conflict. And at the end of the day, from my understanding, they would need to be invited by the host government.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Even for the Thai government, for instance, who shares a border with some of those operations on the Myanmar side. they're finding it very difficult to address the situation as well, even despite the fact that the Thai tourism industry is now suffering from some of these human trafficking incidents.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Even for the Thai government, for instance, who shares a border with some of those operations on the Myanmar side. they're finding it very difficult to address the situation as well, even despite the fact that the Thai tourism industry is now suffering from some of these human trafficking incidents.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Yeah, I mean, you know, the way that things are trending right now, it's, uh... There's maybe a few things that I would say is first and foremost, we're seeing the criminal groups involved in this activity very quickly emerging into more sophisticated cyber threat actors, right? So they're leveraging malware, they're leveraging advanced methods of laundering their money.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Yeah, I mean, you know, the way that things are trending right now, it's, uh... There's maybe a few things that I would say is first and foremost, we're seeing the criminal groups involved in this activity very quickly emerging into more sophisticated cyber threat actors, right? So they're leveraging malware, they're leveraging advanced methods of laundering their money.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

and they're developing new platforms in which they can conduct their business.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

and they're developing new platforms in which they can conduct their business.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

What do you mean by new platforms?

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

What do you mean by new platforms?

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

I'm talking about illicit online marketplaces that have specifically popped up in the region on Telegram. They offer, like I mentioned, a bunch of different sort of specialty services from laundering to web hosting to malware as a service. A bunch of these different things can be found in those platforms.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

I'm talking about illicit online marketplaces that have specifically popped up in the region on Telegram. They offer, like I mentioned, a bunch of different sort of specialty services from laundering to web hosting to malware as a service. A bunch of these different things can be found in those platforms.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Yeah, I would say so. But it's all happening very much out in the open. A lot of these groups have upwards of like a million users, hundreds of thousands is very common. So I would sort of frame this under a more broader professionalization that's taking place within the industry. And I think, unfortunately, we're kind of just getting started with where this is heading.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Yeah, I would say so. But it's all happening very much out in the open. A lot of these groups have upwards of like a million users, hundreds of thousands is very common. So I would sort of frame this under a more broader professionalization that's taking place within the industry. And I think, unfortunately, we're kind of just getting started with where this is heading.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Is the way forward just like ruthless cynicism at all times?

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Is the way forward just like ruthless cynicism at all times?

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

It's a question I struggle with, honestly. You are vulnerable. I'm vulnerable, right? And you're being targeted in one way, shape or form. I'll guarantee you with a platform like yours, with a profile like yours, There are plenty of criminal groups who would love to have access to your Twitter account or to your email to pump out some malicious links to your followers, right?

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

It's a question I struggle with, honestly. You are vulnerable. I'm vulnerable, right? And you're being targeted in one way, shape or form. I'll guarantee you with a platform like yours, with a profile like yours, There are plenty of criminal groups who would love to have access to your Twitter account or to your email to pump out some malicious links to your followers, right?