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John Zito

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

And we bought several hundred million of June insurance and company filed in May, literally a month later after they told me everything was fine.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

So that was like the start of the Hertz journey from there.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

We bought the term loan at 60.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

We thought that we'd probably own the company at a sub-billion dollars.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

It was very different with our company when we hated it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

It was a $10 billion company.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

We were buying the company effectively at a billion.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

And you go over the life of the journey from mid-20 to when we were buying the term loan at 60 as a distress for control, which is, again, not really what we do historically, but it was COVID times.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

And we're like, if we own it here, we don't think it's going to be distress for control.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

But if we own it at this valuation, it's worth this.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

We refinanced to think about the story of Apollo and how it can actually provide solutions, right?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

From that point forward, we became the largest secured lender.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

We provided the dip.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

We refinanced $4 billion in that summer, $4 billion of their entire used car vehicle financing because they had to, because the used cars were collapsed, they needed a refi.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

Yeah.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

We refied $4 billion.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

The term loan went up.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

Then when the company ultimately ended up exiting bankruptcy, they took out the term loan.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

In November of that year, they had a lease business, a platform business that actually did fleet finance inside of Hertz that they wanted to sell before they exited.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Zito - Inside Apollo - [Invest Like the Best, EP.426]

We bought it in our platform business and have merged it with Wheels, which is a specialty lending fleet finance platform business.