Johnny Steinberg

You know, a lot of people died in those four years. There was a lot of violence. It was a complicated process. But it was, in the end, a peaceful settlement that both sides agreed to, bringing in democracy in April 1994.

It was a pretty gentle settlement on white people. Afrikaans people were about just over half of the white population. Most people carried on living their lives pretty much as they were before, to be honest. You know, that's a simple version of the story. When you scratch underneath, more complicated things are happening.

It was a pretty gentle settlement on white people. Afrikaans people were about just over half of the white population. Most people carried on living their lives pretty much as they were before, to be honest. You know, that's a simple version of the story. When you scratch underneath, more complicated things are happening.

It was a pretty gentle settlement on white people. Afrikaans people were about just over half of the white population. Most people carried on living their lives pretty much as they were before, to be honest. You know, that's a simple version of the story. When you scratch underneath, more complicated things are happening.

One of the things happening is that crime rates absolutely soared in the late apartheid and early post-apartheid era. And white people became victims of crimes in ways that they didn't know under apartheid, which was very frightening. I mean, another thing happening, and this is about the land. This is not about all white people or all Afrikaans people, but is about farmers.

One of the things happening is that crime rates absolutely soared in the late apartheid and early post-apartheid era. And white people became victims of crimes in ways that they didn't know under apartheid, which was very frightening. I mean, another thing happening, and this is about the land. This is not about all white people or all Afrikaans people, but is about farmers.

One of the things happening is that crime rates absolutely soared in the late apartheid and early post-apartheid era. And white people became victims of crimes in ways that they didn't know under apartheid, which was very frightening. I mean, another thing happening, and this is about the land. This is not about all white people or all Afrikaans people, but is about farmers.

A policy of land redress was introduced in the mid-1990s. And to explain what happened, it's necessary to go back to 1913 when law was passed disallowing black ownership of land in South Africa. Many, many people displaced from their land in the decades after that. By the early 1970s, several million people had been displaced from their land.

A policy of land redress was introduced in the mid-1990s. And to explain what happened, it's necessary to go back to 1913 when law was passed disallowing black ownership of land in South Africa. Many, many people displaced from their land in the decades after that. By the early 1970s, several million people had been displaced from their land.

A policy of land redress was introduced in the mid-1990s. And to explain what happened, it's necessary to go back to 1913 when law was passed disallowing black ownership of land in South Africa. Many, many people displaced from their land in the decades after that. By the early 1970s, several million people had been displaced from their land.

And a policy of redress was set in place in the mid-1990s. And among other things, it allowed people who could show that they had had their land taken away from them after 1913 to get it back. But not by confiscating land, not by taking it away from those who owned it, but by buying it back at market prices. So that was the core of the land reform scheme, just stated at its most simple.

And a policy of redress was set in place in the mid-1990s. And among other things, it allowed people who could show that they had had their land taken away from them after 1913 to get it back. But not by confiscating land, not by taking it away from those who owned it, but by buying it back at market prices. So that was the core of the land reform scheme, just stated at its most simple.

And a policy of redress was set in place in the mid-1990s. And among other things, it allowed people who could show that they had had their land taken away from them after 1913 to get it back. But not by confiscating land, not by taking it away from those who owned it, but by buying it back at market prices. So that was the core of the land reform scheme, just stated at its most simple.

It is underway, and... You know, I think many white people's grievances about that process are less about the policies themselves and the way that they've been implemented. Black and white South Africans are both enormously, enormously frustrated with South Africa's government for its levels of inefficiency and its corruption.

It is underway, and... You know, I think many white people's grievances about that process are less about the policies themselves and the way that they've been implemented. Black and white South Africans are both enormously, enormously frustrated with South Africa's government for its levels of inefficiency and its corruption.

It is underway, and... You know, I think many white people's grievances about that process are less about the policies themselves and the way that they've been implemented. Black and white South Africans are both enormously, enormously frustrated with South Africa's government for its levels of inefficiency and its corruption.

And very often anger at that melds with angle of the substance and the content of policy. A fair amount of land has been redistributed. It has not been a particularly successful or particularly well-managed process. It has left both poor black people and white landholders and others dissatisfied. So a lot has to do with the corruption and inefficiencies of the process itself.

And very often anger at that melds with angle of the substance and the content of policy. A fair amount of land has been redistributed. It has not been a particularly successful or particularly well-managed process. It has left both poor black people and white landholders and others dissatisfied. So a lot has to do with the corruption and inefficiencies of the process itself.

And very often anger at that melds with angle of the substance and the content of policy. A fair amount of land has been redistributed. It has not been a particularly successful or particularly well-managed process. It has left both poor black people and white landholders and others dissatisfied. So a lot has to do with the corruption and inefficiencies of the process itself.

Well, if you look at South Africa's response to Donald Trump saying that, nobody has agreed with him. Land has not been stolen from anybody in South Africa since 1994. A lot of land has been bought at market prices and redistributed, but not stolen.