Jomana Karadsheh
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It's not a war that is contained in this region.
And I think controlling it, especially when you see how easy it is to recruit people online, and especially when you look at the state of the economy right now,
it is going to be very, very challenging.
Look, it's crude, but it's effective, right?
You know, when you look at what has been happening in Israel and this, you know, unprecedented domestic espionage crisis that they're going through and, you know, what you were mentioning,
Yes, sometimes people are just hired to burn posters and do these sort of things that are not necessarily breaking any laws.
But taking pictures of sensitive sites, they have also targeting certain individuals.
Some of these sites...
according to prosecutors that they took pictures of and provided, sent them to the Iranians according to these indictments, have been targeted by the Iranians during the June war last year, the 12-day war, and again during the war this year.
Look, I think the Israelis...
have the most sophisticated, most advanced intelligence services, not just in this region and beyond.
And I think over the past few years, even when people already knew that, they would still get shocked every time you would see the level of targeting that was taking place inside Iran.
And for the Iranians themselves, I mean, for the regime, that also must have been absolutely...
Just the impact that had on the morale, on the confidence within the regime, you know, targeting of the different figures as well as what we saw happen in Lebanon as well, that level of infiltration we saw from the Israelis.
But I think what we're going to see is the Iranians using more and more of these sort of, you know, what you're describing as these crude tactics, but they do have an impact, a psychological impact as well on a population.
After our investigation, David, the channel that was recruiting people on Telegram, it was taken down.
Within a few hours of our report coming out, it was taken down.
And the following day, many in Israel got text messages that were saying that it was the Iranian intelligence and calling on people to contact Iranian missions in different countries to help them.
And it's about their future, they said.
So you can imagine the kind of psychological impact that has.