Jon Delaney

So, you know, sad, too.

I was at a dinner recently and it was an older woman, maybe in her nineties, and she was sitting there with her two I would assume they were her grandkids fucking stuck in the phone while she's eating.

Oh, man, I see it all the time.

And, you know, I thought to myself, like, fuck,

i just just i mean we're all on borrowed time you know those kids will grow up and they'll regret that those moments that you're just stuck in some little virtual box yeah you know yeah yeah sucks dude

You know, you brought up, you brought on Gavin Newsom.

I'll be honest with you.

I, prior to, I don't keep up with all your stuff religiously.

Um, just cause life gets crazy, man.

I can barely keep up with my shit, but I catch one every once in a while.

My brother though, he's, that's why he's here.

He wanted to meet you, but, um,

I had this impression of you originally that you were more right leaning.

I don't know why.

That's just how I absorbed it originally.

And over time, as I listened to you, I've, I've seen that I was wrong.

And I think how I view you and what you're doing here is you're trying to have a real conversation with people and

You bringing on Gavin Newsom, I think, was really the pinnacle of you showing that you're not an echo chamber.

You're open to people challenging you ideas.

I've seen some of your podcasts where you have somebody on, talk shit on somebody else, and then you let that other person that was getting shit talked come on in.