Jon Favreau

And then those were, I think, disproven, or at least there was reporting that showed that those weren't true.

So then those statements sort of changed.

Hard to get into the mind of somebody that would have this in their past and think that they could run for governor because you can't even say, oh, he... Because it's like, this is not...

I don't know what stories people tell themselves, but he's not the first person to have terrible skeletons in their closet and still believe that they could do whatever they want and keep rising and be brazenly ambitious.

Sociopathic.

There's a story I think people tell themselves that, oh, look, I've stepped outside of my marriage and I've been unfaithful, but I've never done anything.

I've never heard anybody.

It's always consensual, always consensual.

These stories come out whether it's you we've seen over and over the powerful men that they truly like cannot either They are in denial themselves or just lie in perpetuity But they cannot accept that what they've done is not just been unfaithful, but actually been like sexually assaulted people

Yeah, there's such a, because like Santos was basically the first person expelled since what, like reconstruction?

And with that, it was like, oh, well, it's so obvious that you should have this person removed because it's just so brazen and there's so many examples.

But the idea, there's something so like, look, I'm glad Swalwell's resigning.

All these other people should be resigned and expelled.

But there's something so ugly about like, oh, we have to do it in pairs because we're only going to enforce our ethics.

in a bipartisan way, which tells you that actually what you need is some kind of a standard or process at the end of which there's a way in which you say, all right, this standard has been met.

We will vote to expel.

That won't be kind of abused or politicized or ignored by either side.

It's some kind of legal determination.

And by the way, I'm glad too that there was genuine reporting that dug in.

Because there were random posts on social media that were like, oh, Swalwell's a creep.