Jon Favreau

I mean, this is one that has been like making me quietly sick every time I see more stories because it's like...

I'm very aware that we finished the episode of Trump's America where there was the battle of Minneapolis and then Kristi Noem was fired.

And then they pulled back and Stephen Miller was sort of like, you know, had to go back in his cave for a little bit.

And so everyone moved on and thinks, OK, now things are good and things are not good.

These are pregnant women, children, elderly people who need their medicine.

Yes, that's the other.

And we've both interviewed people who've been caught up in this and people who probably have more means and maybe they're like Canadians that got caught up in it.

And they will say, it's not even like they're just deporting people.

I think people have this image of, oh, Trump wants to deport people and he wants to deport the worst of the worst or maybe just undocumented immigrants.

And obviously it's gone beyond that.

But it's beyond just deportation, which in some cases would be more humane than what they are doing to people in these detention centers.

Some people are like begging to be deported.

I will tell you, when I was talking to Andy Kim, I was thinking about, remember that he was, he was like a brand new, brand new to Congress, time of January 6th, and he was in the Capitol picking up the trash.

Yes, yes.

And like, I remember interviewing him after that and he was like so, still so like hopeful.

Yeah.

Even though that had happened because he was like, and you know, when I interviewed him on Tuesday, he seemed like beat down.

Like when you see something like that, it's like, and he's not the type of,

He's not the type of politician who's like hair on fire, partisan, this, that.

He just he saw something.