Jon Lee Anderson

Thanks, Terry.

Dismay and shock.

I'm just at the tone that

the man who is the president of the United States, used in referring to another country.

And, of course, the dismay is not just at the type of degraded language used, but also the fact that what he just said was very counterproductive because anybody who knows the Cubans and Cuban history, this island nation just off our shores, knows that it has...

to an unusual degree, a profound nationalist sentiment when it comes to its own sovereignty, its independence, and especially vis-a-vis the United States.

And that goes way beyond the history of the Marxist revolution of the past 60 odd years.

It goes back to the 19th century.

So this kind of dismissive language is deeply humiliating, hurtful, and would get anyone's back up on the island.

And I gather that it has.

Well, it's a 700-mile-long Caribbean island with unexploited, undeveloped beachfront property.

Let's put it that way.

It's a real estate tycoon or entrepreneur's dream of dreams.

There is simply no place like it in the hemisphere.

Cuba has barely developed its tourism potential, quite apart from the fact that, yes, it's true, it does not have oil and has very little else that's exportable.

It has massive tourist potential.

there are some beach resorts, but they're on a scale, you know, minimal compared to what we have or what we've seen in the United States or for that matter elsewhere in the Caribbean.

So for a real estate guy like Trump, you know, Cuba is just a bonanza waiting to happen.

A friend of mine in Cuba sort of said, do you think if we

If we offered him Varadero, talking about the, it's an iconic beach resort in Cuba that goes back to the mid-20th century.