Jon Lovett

I'm doing great.

As a great president once said, it's not whether or not you get knocked down, it's whether you get back up again.

Not enough.

I mean, look, the full...

co-opting of the republican party has continued the the idea that we would have gone to war in iran without a debate without a vote without a plans extraordinary we're going to talk about what he posted today about our about about what europe should be up to and the the like incompetence and chaos and

silliness and idiocy of this is like such a staggering, like unacceptable and obvious degree.

And there's still so many people on the right defending it.

I think the optimistic part to me is I do think he's finally crossed some

Rubicon and lost a lot of people that he needs or what you would have thought his coalition needed.

And so I do think there is a crack up happening.

And I think that's a reason to be hopeful.

But I think what we said there still is right.

But for you, the worst case scenario is still in view for you right now.

So I think what we were talking about in March of 2025, which I, first of all, I can't believe it feels like that is a long time ago, but also I can't believe we were having that conversation so early in the administration, was that we were seeing the worst possible version of Trump and everybody was really caught off guard, right?

Like that's what was happening.

He was doing Doge and he was destroying USAID and he was weaponizing the Department of Justice.

He was the worst version of himself.

And the question I think is, okay,

We've had the worst version of Trump.

Are we in the worst case version of America, right?