Jon Quast

I think it is.

But I would push back on the significance of being in the lead at this stage of the game.

The stats that I saw, less than 1% of the population has even taken a ride in a driverless taxi at this point in the US.

So according to the law of diffusion of technology, we're still in the early adopter phase.

So that means that companies such as Tesla, Uber, even Amazon with Zoox, they all still have plenty of time to catch up before we get to the early majority phase of adoption.

I think that's where a lead really matters is in that stage of the game.

Right now, we're still really early.

There is time to catch up.

I mean, what do I know, Travis?

There are some really smart people on both sides of this argument.

I think you can make a good case for either approach.

What I will say is this, I do think that fast scaling solutions will matter in this space, because no matter who you are, I think that we have agreement that this market, that the

incredibly fast.

It will be adopted really fast once it starts gaining some momentum.

Just one statistic, according to Fortune Business Insights, the U.S.

market for this is supposed to go from $1 billion in 2022 to over $100 billion in 2031.

Will that be exactly correct?

Probably not.

But will it be directionally correct?

Most likely.