Jon Slavet

That was his policy, right?

Well, he's the one who, you know, I think he figured out early on he wanted to be known as a climate governor.

And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

We have the best environmental laws on the books of any state.

We should enforce them.

The environmental movement started here in the 70s.

That was a good thing.

The problem is it was perverted and hijacked in law de facto to block a lot of good things, a lot of growth and housing and energy production that we need while we figure out how to protect the environment.

So I think it kind of got perverted unintentionally.

But you ask, how do you win?

You know, there are credible polls, Chuck, from mid to late last year that show that half of the state would vote for the right kind of Republican.

I believe that.

Well, we'll we'll see.

I think I think in California, it's darkest before the dawn.

I think that if you my grammar research, we have lots of polling.

The grammar research is so much frustration, so much disaffection.

And I think the way this is going to game out on the left or on the Democratic side, I really think the energy is more further left.

I think it's more in the Katie Porter wing than others, right?

And there are different characters on the Democrats.

Yeah.