Jon Slavet

You got it partially right.

I worked for the founder of the entertainment, a guy named Yara Mon used to be Lee Masters.

I did.

He was the former CEO of NPR before the current CEO.

So I came out to California to work for the founders of Wired Magazine in 1995 prior to the Internet actually being a thing.

Yeah.

Well, big tech is also a huge driver for innovation, employment, wealth building.

But so interested in politics, interested in media for a long, long time.

And God help us.

But I'd say that becoming a civic.

We need to keep that in California.

There's a lot of movement outside of California.

entrepreneur which i've done the last year with my own podcast right really gave me access to people uh in the state republicans democrats independents activists i mean i've had journalists like you on my podcast too alex michaelson yeah that really got me underneath the issues out in the state traveling the state every week and talking about what ails the state and my passion initially was to

Listen, you can run a tech company from anywhere in the world.

You can run it from the mountains.

You can run it from the beach.

You can run it from anywhere.

So California needs to remain the most...

welcoming, and the most positive place for tech companies of all sizes to want to do business.

If you look at the AI business, Chuck, one of the singular reasons that Dan Lurie has been able to tell a comeback story in San Francisco is because of AI.