Jon Slavet

And despite all of our problems, I wouldn't live anywhere else.

You know, I think anyone who says, though, that they've not considered moving out of the state is lying because even I have everyone has.

But, you know, I want to make my life here and help turn the state around.

So I'm staying to your point.

I made an analogy the other day that that sunshine is to California like old spices to many men's underarms.

It's basically just it's covered up all the bad.

If we had the year-round weather of Seattle and Portland, we would have lost half our people.

So, yes, people love living here.

We have an amazing climate.

We have, I think, the most talented people, industry, geography.

We have all of it.

Well, and we have Pat Brown to thank for a lot of these things.

You know, Jerry's dad, who was, I think by all accounts, a great, great governor.

uh and i would give that praise but here's the problem chuck i think when you work in the tech sector or certain aspects of the real estate sector like i did you have great advantages because um because you're not uh in tech for instance we don't suffer in tech from a lot of the regulations

that impact other real-world businesses.

Yes.

Quite unfettered and mostly for good reasons.

And if you've got people and capital, you can thrive.

Having said that, there are many tech companies that are moving out of California for different reasons.

But here's the thing.