Jon Slavet

Texas started, then California.

By the way, the Democrats that were pro Prop 50 raised $120 million spent

A little bit more than the majority of it, but have that money in the coffers to do what they want to do for the next campaign.

And we spawned all kinds of bad behavior across the country.

Thankfully, there are some Republican legislatures and leaders resisting doing that as well.

I think it's bad for democracy.

Yeah.

And so that's an example where I came out and made my case, which is counter to what most people in California think.

But how will Democrats feel when Republicans take control of the state, which will happen at some point in California, hopefully soon?

How will Republicans treat Democrats in California?

And I think we should be a shining beacon of a constitutional functioning democracy in California, not a hack job.

But let me ask you your question, because you asked me why I'm not independent.

I want to answer the question directly because it's a really good question.

There actually is an independent running named Ethan Penner, who's a good, smart guy and got some interesting ideas.

There's no independent party, Chuck.

There's no independent party.

Well, well, OK, but that's not the reality.

I think I think that people organize around parties still in America and they organize around two parties.

And I think it's a long way off.

before we have an independent party in California or in the nation.