Jon Slavet

So I'm staying.

To your point,

I made an analogy the other day that sunshine is to California like Old Spice is to many men's underarms.

It's basically just, it's covered up all the bad.

If we had the year-round weather of Seattle and Portland, we would have lost half our people.

So, yes, people love living here.

We have an amazing climate.

We have, I think, the most talented people, industry, geography.

We have all of it.

Well, and we have Pat Brown to thank for a lot of these things.

You know, Jerry's dad, who was, I think by all accounts, a great, great governor.

And I would give that praise.

But here's the problem, Chuck.

I think when you work in the tech sector or certain aspects of the real estate sector, like I did, you have great advantages because you're not in tech.

For instance, we don't suffer in tech from a lot of the regulations.

that impact other real-world businesses.

Yes.

Quite unfettered and mostly for good reasons.

And if you've got people and capital, you can thrive.

Having said that, there are many tech companies that are moving out of California for different reasons.