Jon Stewart

to seize upon those conditions that could have really created that modern progressive revolution that ended up maybe dissipating because it wasn't bold enough.

Is that possible?

Hey, look, Longer, I mean, he's singing an old song, Heather.

I mean, the song he's singing about there is a real America and a real American, and they're the ones being screwed by, like, that's a pretty old song that even goes back to what you were talking about in the South.

And an expansion of rights and an expansion of fairness and an expansion of justice.

Heather, it might be the nicest thing anybody said on this podcast.

It's

Turn it over.

You know, it's part of it because it it strikes me this is a great discussion to have about.

It's how you convince people, because I think the cattle rancher thing is a great historical precedent.

And you can look at it today with the farmers.

what i find is if the government does something that for someone that you yourself don't need well that's an entitlement and you resent it but if the government does something that you need well that's just and that's just them giving you back your money you know and they always make this case by the way like why are we putting tariffs on well

because certain policies that were put into place hurt the Rust Belt and hurt manufacturing and made it so those people's lives would be lives more of despair.

And we must repair the damage that's been done by those policies.

But if you say the same thing about redlining or

uh, racially exclusive policies, we need to create ways to repair that damage.

What?

That's an entitlement.

They're free riders.

They don't view it as investment.