Jon Stewart

And I don't know if they – or I certainly don't think that they in any way see that contradiction.

That's got to be a bumper sticker, Heather.

Humans are going to human.

But I love what you're saying with that, Heather.

And it reminds me, you know, to wrap it around, you know, you said sort of early on one thing that I think is

has to be a top of mind which is you don't know the future it hasn't been written and as we watch these sorts of almost slow motion car crash happening the fact of the matter is

we can in our frustration overturn those injustices and we can in our frustration regain and have a more, we can reaffirm our desire to create the society that we think is fair and to do that in a way that isn't necessarily over an epoch, but it can happen in a moment.

It really can.

And again, now I'm the Pollyanna, but I do think that in the way that we've been caught off guard by these last 10, 12 years, or maybe even the slow erosion of it through the last 40, there exists great opportunity.

And I guess I want to ask you sort of, as we wrap it up, do you see that opportunity

Do you think of it in terms of, well, we can overturn Citizens United, we can do these things, or do you think it's going to be a bolder form of change that's going to come through now that the executive has been supercharged?

Use that to our benefit.

Which way would you like to see it go, knowing that we can't know?

And you know who's doing it?

The Chinese.

Our greatest rival has already electrified their grid.

And when you see that, the enthusiasm and almost the joy of the populace is self-evident.

And I don't know that I can recall a moment in my life, and that's all, you know, speaking through Watergate and Vietnam and the oil shocks and all the different sorts of, you know, difficult spikes and ebbs and things that we've all lived through.

where the people feel more ready for that vision to be laid out coherently and and not i mean honestly like i think somebody who ran on sane policy you know competently executed could win 60 like i don't think we're as divided as the the social media would uh in monetarily incentivize us to be

and i do think and and you know power abhors a vacuum right like there is a moment right now for exactly what you're saying to it's you feel it bubbling throughout the country and you just know that