Jon Stewart

Right.

And it can't be that.

Zero sum.

It can't be... Do you have a Mamdani hierarchy of needs?

You know, I lived in this city for a very long time.

Yeah.

And I can tell you, livability is...

If you can run this place, you will earn a great deal of leeway to do all kinds of innovative things.

But if people feel disorder, man, you won't be able to do... And I've lived through the eras of New York where it was disorder.

And it...

It does make it.

People feel it.

I mean, look, public safety is the prerequisite for an affordability agenda.

Job one.

Right?

People have to be safe.

And we also know that safety is something that you not only deliver with the NYPD, it's also something that you deliver by ensuring that there are actually jobs that can pay people enough to stay in the city.

All of these things are integrated.

A little bit...

You know, today, I was taking the one train downtown with a reporter from ABC, and we were having a conversation, and we walk on the train, and there's a homeless man sleeping on the train.