Jon Stewart

I'm excited to talk to him again.

It's been a long time, but please welcome an old friend, Alistair Campbell.

We are joined, thank goodness, from someone who can give us the view from across the Atlantic, our special relationship.

It's Alistair Campbell, co-host of the Rest is Politics podcast, but obviously Alistair Campbell, writer, podcaster, campaigner, strategist, worked with Tony Blair, worked with every labor politician known to man, and a co-host with our good friend Rory Stewart.

Alistair!

It was a lovely welcome, wasn't it?

It's a delight to see you again.

It's been too many years.

And I have to say, what an exciting time to reconnect as the world.

We're doing it again, Alistair.

Welcome to another episode of the exciting series, Let's Go to War in the Middle East.

Well, look, famously, you were with Tony Blair.

You wrote his speeches.

You were his press secretary during that time in the run-up to the Iraq war.

So from your vantage point, how does this Iran war differ?

How does the relationship between the United States and Great Britain differ in the run-up to this and

What are your general thoughts on what we're seeing?

Did you write that speech, Alistair?

Do you wonder, you know, that's an interesting point, because I wonder if we're in a different era because people view authority and expertise and government differently, that our adventures in Iraq are

uh so eroded the credibility i mean i think you can you can draw kind of a straight line between united states interventionism and maybe even the immigration crisis in europe and brexit and that