Jon Stewart

And then they'll say some version of, I think Scott Besson even said on the weekend shows, well, you have to have some grace for President Trump knowing what we've put his family through.

They're basically calling for empathy in an emotional state that is utterly missing from that entirety of that movement.

My point is though,

he's the president.

How do you, you have to deal with the reality that we're all

And I guess the policy should be, as we're talking about, containment.

That's right.

No.

In fact, she's on an island in a lot of respects because she's relentless.

And she does stay with it.

The thing that you're doing, she does.

That you're talking about, she will hold them to account.

But they don't.

Look, you know this as well as anybody having worked in the press.

Politicians learn how to use whatever form of communication there is against them.

When television first came out and politicians didn't quite understand the medium, it didn't know how to use it.

there was, I don't know if you remember, the Kennedy-Nixon debate.

It was a huge, it was the first time it was televised.

And politicians didn't understand the medium.

And so Kennedy went on television,