Jonathan Agnew

So there you go.

I thought that was a much more honest assessment of where England have been, not just in this series, Simon.

But going back to identifying points, I mentioned the oval test against India as being one.

I'm pretty sure he said there were moments before that.

So the warning signs have been there and people have talked about them.

But you wonder...

if they really were addressed at the time or dealt with properly at the time.

And I think Stokes is sort of suggesting that perhaps they weren't.

Yeah, I mean, just picking some of the main bits out there, you're actually engulfed by spectators at the moment.

They've all come onto the ground and they've been cordoned off to allow home supporters to enjoy Australia's celebration.

But, yeah, the things I picked out there, we played three out of ten crickets.

which I haven't heard before from the England camp.

It's time for some honest truths, a lot of room for improvement.

I mean, I think, you know, it's obvious to say that when you're 4-1 down in the series.

But I mean, generally speaking, we haven't heard that sort of talk a bit earlier in the series.

But generally speaking, we haven't heard that from Ben Stokes in the last two or three years.

There's a lot of talk about positivity and that sort of thing, taking the game forward.

But actually there, it's like,

actually no look this has been pretty poor we've got to improve otherwise it's all going to disintegrate completely I just feel they're listening about that you know it's about you know and we've been saying it all day all series sorry you know what I mean about not being able to step up you know when we've had the opposition on the ropes and everything like that I think England have become a little bit of a one trick pony you know and it's not them necessarily being able to step up I think that just now the opposition now

know how to step up it themselves whether it's been bowling wide and they'll come to us