Jonathan Alter

And he worked at that. He worked at that every day. Even when he was relaxing, he was doing it in a very intense way. He was fishing in Siberia when he was 93 years old, that kind of thing.

Yes. He had unusually enlightened views on race for somebody from his part of the country. And that came from his mother and Rachel Clark, as I mentioned earlier. So he did try to do that. But then later, it was almost like dissidents in the old Soviet Union. He and Rosalind and their family were the only ones who wanted to allow black people to

Yes. He had unusually enlightened views on race for somebody from his part of the country. And that came from his mother and Rachel Clark, as I mentioned earlier. So he did try to do that. But then later, it was almost like dissidents in the old Soviet Union. He and Rosalind and their family were the only ones who wanted to allow black people to

Yes. He had unusually enlightened views on race for somebody from his part of the country. And that came from his mother and Rachel Clark, as I mentioned earlier. So he did try to do that. But then later, it was almost like dissidents in the old Soviet Union. He and Rosalind and their family were the only ones who wanted to allow black people to

It wasn't that they were trying to get membership in the Plains Baptist Church just to be able to cross the threshold and enter the church. And Carter tried to make that happen, and he lost. But then when he was in the state Senate and first running for governor, he didn't want to advertise that because— As he said to me at one point when I was interviewing him, he said, I had a choice.

It wasn't that they were trying to get membership in the Plains Baptist Church just to be able to cross the threshold and enter the church. And Carter tried to make that happen, and he lost. But then when he was in the state Senate and first running for governor, he didn't want to advertise that because— As he said to me at one point when I was interviewing him, he said, I had a choice.

It wasn't that they were trying to get membership in the Plains Baptist Church just to be able to cross the threshold and enter the church. And Carter tried to make that happen, and he lost. But then when he was in the state Senate and first running for governor, he didn't want to advertise that because— As he said to me at one point when I was interviewing him, he said, I had a choice.

I could either be part of the civil rights movement or I could be governor of Georgia. And I chose to be governor of Georgia. But what he did, which was so remarkable, is that just moments after taking the oath of office as governor in early 1971, he said the time for racial discrimination is over. Now,

I could either be part of the civil rights movement or I could be governor of Georgia. And I chose to be governor of Georgia. But what he did, which was so remarkable, is that just moments after taking the oath of office as governor in early 1971, he said the time for racial discrimination is over. Now,

I could either be part of the civil rights movement or I could be governor of Georgia. And I chose to be governor of Georgia. But what he did, which was so remarkable, is that just moments after taking the oath of office as governor in early 1971, he said the time for racial discrimination is over. Now,

in a lot of the rest of the country or in other parts of the world, it was long past time for it to be over. These were revolutionary words in Georgia. And he went on to integrate state government in Georgia and appoint black judges and other black folks to high office. And of course, did the same as president when he took the United States government from

in a lot of the rest of the country or in other parts of the world, it was long past time for it to be over. These were revolutionary words in Georgia. And he went on to integrate state government in Georgia and appoint black judges and other black folks to high office. And of course, did the same as president when he took the United States government from

in a lot of the rest of the country or in other parts of the world, it was long past time for it to be over. These were revolutionary words in Georgia. And he went on to integrate state government in Georgia and appoint black judges and other black folks to high office. And of course, did the same as president when he took the United States government from

tokenism to genuine diversity and began to become the Jimmy Carter that we know. But this was a process. And I think there's a lesson here, which Jimmy Carter himself, after the murder of George Floyd, he reflected on this, you know, that silence is death and that we do need to speak up, but also better late than never. It's never too late to join the cause of justice.

tokenism to genuine diversity and began to become the Jimmy Carter that we know. But this was a process. And I think there's a lesson here, which Jimmy Carter himself, after the murder of George Floyd, he reflected on this, you know, that silence is death and that we do need to speak up, but also better late than never. It's never too late to join the cause of justice.

tokenism to genuine diversity and began to become the Jimmy Carter that we know. But this was a process. And I think there's a lesson here, which Jimmy Carter himself, after the murder of George Floyd, he reflected on this, you know, that silence is death and that we do need to speak up, but also better late than never. It's never too late to join the cause of justice.

And that's part of what his life represents.

And that's part of what his life represents.

And that's part of what his life represents.

Well, first he got involved in education. So his father had been on the school board and he decided to go on the school board as well. And even though there was nothing he could do. even as chair of the county school board, to integrate the schools. He could do things to improve the black schools, which at the time he went on the school board didn't even have any school buses.