Jonathan Badeen
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard May 2025
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I'd say two parts to that. One, you know, most relationships probably started with a hookup. So just because people, you know, a large contingent of users on Tinder, I think it's the majority, I don't know the latest numbers or whatnot, but, you know, they're actually looking for a relationship. Doesn't mean they're not. open to a hookup. So there is that.
But on top of that, it is used for everything. The number of marriages that have happened is insane. I get invited to different weddings and stuff like that. And it's really what you make of it. I think some of that stigma really came out of the fact that we launched the app on college campuses. That's sort of where we started. And that's kind of That market, that's kind of what they do.
They're a little bit more hookup-centric and all, and so it kind of came from that. But it really isn't. It's whatever it is that you're looking for, you should be able to find it on Tinder and, of course, the other platforms.
Well, it starts off less pressure. It's a little bit easier to be your more authentic self when it's low pressure like that.
Absolutely. I can relate quite a bit to that. I used to have a really hard time dating before Tinder. And every time I did go out on a date, which was very rare, I would... there would be such pressure on me.
I, you know, self-induced pressure thinking like, oh, you know, is this my, when is, I got to make the best of this because I don't know when the next date's going to be, you know, you know, and trying to make the most of everything to the point like I have literal sweat stains on my shirt and stuff. And then once we built Tinder, it made it easy enough for me to just kind of go on enough dates.
It was like I didn't care so much anymore about is this the one or whatever. It's like all I care about is going out, having a drink or something, meeting this person, and if it works out great, awesome. If it doesn't, I'll go out with somebody tomorrow or next week. It's no big deal. And to the point where it kind of flipped.
So in the future, a lot of times the women I'd go out with would be the ones who were more nervous, and I was the one who was just chill because it was not a big deal to me at that point. Because you finally had options. Yeah, and I wasn't there to hook up or anything. I wasn't putting my entire future into that night.
Yeah, I would say so. I think it's just me being, you know, I think I probably could have got plenty of dates, but I didn't have the confidence or the, you know, just it was me going up and hitting on a girl or something like that was not going to happen generally, which makes it a little hard to, you know, ask somebody out.
But I'm much more comfortable in a digital sense, a little bit of protection of a screen between me and a person to take that initiative then.
You know, I wouldn't say that there were any specific stories that led to it. And a lot of the impetus for Tinder was my co-founder had noticed some of the issues with the existing products that were out there. But, you know, I think just generally the troubles I had made me a little bit more open to the idea of trying to create something. You know, because between just...
meeting people in the world or using things that existed back then like Match.com or OkCupid and all. The kinds of things where I'd go out with people where it's very clear that they were just out for me to buy them a meal and essentially ghosting me afterwards and stuff like that. I think that was from Myspace back in the day. But I think to me, I kind of forget about that stuff.
To me, the most memorable part was just how how absolutely nervous I was. Like I said, I'm not exaggerating about the amount of sweat that I had pouring off of me.
I think whether those things happened or not, whether that would have deterred Tinder from being created, I don't know, but it sure did make me maybe slightly more motivated to figure out a platform that would work for me a little bit better.
Oh, exactly. It was that. It was the fact that I was, you know, I'm sure the first few Tinder dates were much like the, you know, pre-Tinder dates. But after that, it was just like, oh, well, I've got another one tomorrow. And maybe in the back of my mind, I'm even thinking about that date tomorrow instead of the one that I'm on right now.
Not that you should be very focused on whoever you're with or whatever, but I mean, just like, it's just that... There just isn't that pressure. You realize how many people there are out there, especially in a big city like Los Angeles, but you realize how many different options there are and you have a means to find them.
Well, it's you. It's just a matter of pulling you out. These platforms are nothing more than... In many ways, I see them less as dating services and more as introduction services. They're not there for you on the date. They're there to get you introduced to somebody for the date.
I think it's what you make of them and how that affects you and allows you to come out of your shell or express yourself.
Yeah, I mean, I guess to me, you know, it's always just a little bit about, you know, what you do and what your family. I mean, obviously, you know, you don't want to focus too much on, you know, what you do. That sometimes can be a bad thing to some. But, I mean, it is a big part of our life. Yeah.
you know, and try to figure out, um, the other person's interests and just sort of, you know, for me, it was generally just trying to, to keep it sort of natural. The most, you know, trying to force something was where it probably wasn't going to go well. Um, and so it was, um, Yeah, it's just trying to learn about the person.
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