Jonathan Beale

It is an intricate task manoeuvring 60 warplanes around a space the size of three football fields. As they come into land, the pilots must ensure their arrestor hooks catch the steel cable pulled taut across the deck, and they slam to a halt in just 100 metres.

For all of the unpredictability of today's America, out in the vast expanse of the Pacific, giant supercarriers like the Carl Vinson remain at the heart of US strategy.

For all of the unpredictability of today's America, out in the vast expanse of the Pacific, giant supercarriers like the Carl Vinson remain at the heart of US strategy.

The first 100 went off this morning in two chartered Chinese airliners. So they're all Chinese and the Thais have made a somewhat unusual decision to let the Chinese repatriate them straight from Thailand. Some Thai politicians have criticized this, saying, you know, we need to assess what they got through Thailand illegally to get to these places. Why aren't we questioning them?

The first 100 went off this morning in two chartered Chinese airliners. So they're all Chinese and the Thais have made a somewhat unusual decision to let the Chinese repatriate them straight from Thailand. Some Thai politicians have criticized this, saying, you know, we need to assess what they got through Thailand illegally to get to these places. Why aren't we questioning them?

So it's 50 people per airliner, 100 policemen. So two police, Chinese police officers for each Chinese person. That gives you a sense about how China views these people. Now, I mean, despite what human rights activists say, there are some appalling abuses that go on. Quite a lot of people who go to these scam centers do go voluntarily and work there voluntarily.

So it's 50 people per airliner, 100 policemen. So two police, Chinese police officers for each Chinese person. That gives you a sense about how China views these people. Now, I mean, despite what human rights activists say, there are some appalling abuses that go on. Quite a lot of people who go to these scam centers do go voluntarily and work there voluntarily.

And China is saying they will do an assessment when they get them back to China and work out who was trafficked, who's a victim and who went voluntarily. If they did, they will be prosecuted in China. Von dem, was wir wissen, ist, dass die große Mehrheit in China verhaftet wird. Sie werden nicht als Opfer behandelt. Es gibt noch zwei Flugzeuge. Ich denke, drei sind jetzt weg.

And China is saying they will do an assessment when they get them back to China and work out who was trafficked, who's a victim and who went voluntarily. If they did, they will be prosecuted in China. Von dem, was wir wissen, ist, dass die große Mehrheit in China verhaftet wird. Sie werden nicht als Opfer behandelt. Es gibt noch zwei Flugzeuge. Ich denke, drei sind jetzt weg.

Und der letzte ist bereit zu gehen. Das sind 200 heute. Wir erwarten ein Total von mindestens 600 in den nächsten drei Tagen. Das sind alle Leute, die übernommen wurden. And Jonathan, why is it that Southeast Asia in general has become such a focus for these scam centers? I mean, I know there are large numbers of them in Cambodia as well. Ja, genau. We constantly monitor.

Und der letzte ist bereit zu gehen. Das sind 200 heute. Wir erwarten ein Total von mindestens 600 in den nächsten drei Tagen. Das sind alle Leute, die übernommen wurden. And Jonathan, why is it that Southeast Asia in general has become such a focus for these scam centers? I mean, I know there are large numbers of them in Cambodia as well. Ja, genau. We constantly monitor.

They may not be able to function at all. Their bank accounts can be shut down. It's much easier for them to operate in this region. Obviously, when you get to Myanmar, we're talking about operating in contested war zones, in areas where there's no economy to speak of. They found that's the easiest place of all.

They may not be able to function at all. Their bank accounts can be shut down. It's much easier for them to operate in this region. Obviously, when you get to Myanmar, we're talking about operating in contested war zones, in areas where there's no economy to speak of. They found that's the easiest place of all.

All they need to do is do a deal with whoever the local warlord is, or sometimes in the past it was the Myanmar military when they controlled these areas, and they're allowed to do pretty much whatever they like. That is changing. China is determined to try and impose some kind of order and shut this down.

All they need to do is do a deal with whoever the local warlord is, or sometimes in the past it was the Myanmar military when they controlled these areas, and they're allowed to do pretty much whatever they like. That is changing. China is determined to try and impose some kind of order and shut this down.

I'm not convinced they'll be able to stamp it out completely, such as the state of lawlessness here.

I'm not convinced they'll be able to stamp it out completely, such as the state of lawlessness here.

Well, he's saying that the parameters, as does Pete Hegseth, of these negotiations have not yet been decided. Even though we have heard from the US Defense Secretary that Ukraine will not be a member of the NATO alliance as far as the US is concerned, that it will not regain all the territories it's lost since 2014, that the US will not be

Well, he's saying that the parameters, as does Pete Hegseth, of these negotiations have not yet been decided. Even though we have heard from the US Defense Secretary that Ukraine will not be a member of the NATO alliance as far as the US is concerned, that it will not regain all the territories it's lost since 2014, that the US will not be

a security guarantee for Ukraine if the war should end by putting boots on the ground. Both Mr. Rutter and also the U.S. Defense Secretary suggesting that those are not concessions, that the talks haven't, the negotiations haven't properly begun, that both sides will have to make concessions. And indeed, as far as Mr. Rutter is concerned, that Ukraine will have to be involved in those decisions.