Jonathan Chait

Right.

Again, it's like all the stories are bad for him, right?

It's like he's pivoting to hockey.

But like in a normal world, hockey would be the last thing you would want to talk about because his FBI director would be like on the verge of being fired.

Yeah.

What makes it so amazing is,

is that traditionally the amnesia goes the other way.

People falsely remember having voted for the winner.

This is a well-established fact in polling.

So it's not the level 4% is low, but it's the direction that's so surprising.

People usually claim to have voted for the winner and not to have voted for the loser.

So I'm not sure that's ever happened before.

Yeah.

Do you remember before the Iraq – or during the Iraq War – sorry, the Gulf War in 1990, the first Iraq War, going all the way back.

This is – you're a pretty young man.

I don't remember that.

Saddam Hussein launched missiles at Israel hoping to draw Israel into the war so he could rally Arab states to his side after he had invaded Kuwait.

So we're sort of trying the Saddam strategy here.

Oh, so we're in the role of Saddam.

We're the Saddam.