Jonathan Chait

And, you know, I don't know what his –

his cover story is about hockey or China or, you know, hating Canada or whatever, whatever it is.

And maybe Maroon, you know, pressed some of these emotional eyes.

Yeah.

Maybe emotional, these emotional buttons were pressed, you know, in this, in this meeting, but the Zola, just a, just a pure monopolist play to, to, to keep the bridge monopoly going.

There's no conservative defense of any of this behavior, of which I'm aware, other than sometimes they point to other things, which is the whataboutism.

That's what I think part of the Somalian thing is.

They're activating racism, but it's also kind of whataboutism, but their own –

I think all the insiders in the Republican Party are aware of the staggering levels of corruption that have been undertaken by this administration.

And I just don't think they have any defense at all.

Jonathan Cohn.

Yeah.

No, I mean there are traditional conservative policy goals that have been advanced and that tax bill was the main example of it.

That was the top thing he did.

They really believe in that as policy.

Republicans in Congress, I think they care about the border, but I think they care about the taxes more.

Really?

No.

Oh, I think they were.

I mean, I think there's a kind of deal between the traditional Republicans who have stayed in the party.