Jonathan Clegg

Kept an apartment in Trump Tower.

Yep.

Two apartments.

There was a second one.

Right.

And they were looking at sort of, they were looking at the awarding of the World Cups to Russia and Qatar, but they were also looking at the awarding of sort of marketing and merchandising rights that had happened in America and the meetings that happened in America for those things to take place, right?

Yes.

And broadcast rights throughout South America and Latin America.

And the answer was invariably, yes, that is exactly how they were awarded.

The evidence that they got from Chuck Blazer really sort of threw open the case.

You know, I think for a lot of people it marked vindication because, like you said, the stench of shadiness and corruption had been around FIFA for so long.

And yet they seemed completely impervious to any sort of punishment or being called to account.

And so I think that for a lot of people it was, yeah, it really was a sort of decade of vindication delivered upon them.

I mean, at this point, it's clear that Sepp has to go.

I mean, you know, it's remarkable for a guy who was elected five times, whatever it was, as FIFA president.

But the whole sort of Jenga tower is collapsing at this point.

And it's clear that he's going to go.

Yes, absolutely.

Because every single candidate who was vying to replace him said that this would be a turning point and that FIFA would be completely different under a new president.