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Jonathan Freedland

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
345 total appearances

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Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

And we didn't want to ask too many questions or look too deeply.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

That isn't a great explanation.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

But I think that is a part of it.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

The other thing I think is a really difficult question for him, it sounds a bit process-ish, is, Kemi Bade not asked this, if he knew...

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

Last Tuesday, thanks to the Guardian's extraordinary exclusive that he'd been denied vetting, he really is under the rules required to correct the record of previous statements and go to the House of Commons immediately, first possible opportunity.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

And that would have been Prime Minister's questions last Wednesday.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

And he stood there and didn't say anything.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

By the way, guys, I found out something that means what I told you last time was wrong.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

If he had done that, we wouldn't have had our big scoop.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

But under the rules, the ministerial code, he was required to do that and he didn't do that.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

And I think there is not yet a good answer to that.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

Yes.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

So his defence there is that that's what he honestly, sincerely believed, because that's what he'd been told.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

And interestingly, the House has more or less accepted that, that he wasn't, whatever misleading happened, it wasn't knowing.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

And I think it's important that Camille Badenoch, who previously was saying that he was lying, that he knew he was lying, that he was misleading willfully, she's dropped that line now.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

The combination of that, the fact that people have accepted it was not knowing deception, and the fact that he did apologise for the main thing of appointing Madison, almost gets him in the clear.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

The problem is the other bit of it.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

So he didn't knowingly mislead, but did he mislead?

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

There it's this almost sort of hair-splitting theological argument about full process.

Today in Focus
Starmer addresses the Mandelson vetting saga

And there I think the words of Ollie Robbins to the Parliamentary Committee, the Foreign Affairs Committee, are really important because it seems to me that Ollie Robbins was being very Sir Humphrey, if people get the reference there to the character in Yes Minister, the kind of civil servant who said the full vetting process was conducted.