Jonathan Gillen

And we're doing this sort of ground up rebuild right now.

And that'll be launching in a few months.

But once we do that, there's there's literally there's a flame that the gas can be poured on.

And and there's no limiting the the amount of growth.

And we know that we can tap these growth channels because we've tested everything.

You know, I've tested everything.

acquisition channels in almost every major city in the U.S., and they're cost-effective across the board, and they're not limited.

Oh, sure, sure.

It's limited in the...

respect that uh you know space is limited and uh but it's not limited to the fact that uh there are competitors fighting for each single lead and we're convincing people to join us over some other you know uh service we're the only ones really doing this right now

And, you know, for that, there's this massive opportunity.

We launched Beta really in September.

Of what year?

In 2015.

That's when we founded the company, when it was just a concept.

Yeah, well, I would, I would prefer to build something big and do my best to build something huge and fail.

than to build something small.

Again, I've done the small things several times.

Uh, I started a company called droppery tax.

We helped homeowners drop their property taxes around the country.