Jonathan Haidt
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And so a flip phone, a basic phone, that way you and your mom can keep in touch. You and your friends can keep in touch. And now your computer. I'm not saying go without a computer. I understand. For work, for school, the computer is essential. But a computer is not as addictive as a touch screen. The touchscreen is stimulus, response, reward, stimulus, response, reward, infinite loops.
And so a flip phone, a basic phone, that way you and your mom can keep in touch. You and your friends can keep in touch. And now your computer. I'm not saying go without a computer. I understand. For work, for school, the computer is essential. But a computer is not as addictive as a touch screen. The touchscreen is stimulus, response, reward, stimulus, response, reward, infinite loops.
And so a flip phone, a basic phone, that way you and your mom can keep in touch. You and your friends can keep in touch. And now your computer. I'm not saying go without a computer. I understand. For work, for school, the computer is essential. But a computer is not as addictive as a touch screen. The touchscreen is stimulus, response, reward, stimulus, response, reward, infinite loops.
Computer's a little slower. It's not quite as addictive. So I'm not asking you to give up communication. You can have a flip phone. I'm not asking you to give up all sorts of other things on your computer. I'm saying it sounds like you're going to need to take a break from your smartphone for a while. There's also a program called Brick. It's a little device.
Computer's a little slower. It's not quite as addictive. So I'm not asking you to give up communication. You can have a flip phone. I'm not asking you to give up all sorts of other things on your computer. I'm saying it sounds like you're going to need to take a break from your smartphone for a while. There's also a program called Brick. It's a little device.
Computer's a little slower. It's not quite as addictive. So I'm not asking you to give up communication. You can have a flip phone. I'm not asking you to give up all sorts of other things on your computer. I'm saying it sounds like you're going to need to take a break from your smartphone for a while. There's also a program called Brick. It's a little device.
You can block almost every app and just use it for whatever the few apps you need. So there are ways to do that, but I would recommend going cold turkey for a month if you can.
You can block almost every app and just use it for whatever the few apps you need. So there are ways to do that, but I would recommend going cold turkey for a month if you can.
You can block almost every app and just use it for whatever the few apps you need. So there are ways to do that, but I would recommend going cold turkey for a month if you can.
That's right. Wow, there's so much in that question. I'll start with two points. One is that you notice the big effect of these platforms, which is they take all of your child's attention. That's the way they're designed. The reason why these companies are worth trillions of dollars, we don't give them any money.
That's right. Wow, there's so much in that question. I'll start with two points. One is that you notice the big effect of these platforms, which is they take all of your child's attention. That's the way they're designed. The reason why these companies are worth trillions of dollars, we don't give them any money.
That's right. Wow, there's so much in that question. I'll start with two points. One is that you notice the big effect of these platforms, which is they take all of your child's attention. That's the way they're designed. The reason why these companies are worth trillions of dollars, we don't give them any money.
It's all because they drilled into our kids' heads, they extracted all of our kids' attention and sold it. So when your kids are on social media, they're not present. They're not really with you. They're gone. And you saw that quite dramatically when you took the phone away for a month.
It's all because they drilled into our kids' heads, they extracted all of our kids' attention and sold it. So when your kids are on social media, they're not present. They're not really with you. They're gone. And you saw that quite dramatically when you took the phone away for a month.
It's all because they drilled into our kids' heads, they extracted all of our kids' attention and sold it. So when your kids are on social media, they're not present. They're not really with you. They're gone. And you saw that quite dramatically when you took the phone away for a month.
Second point that I think you made, which is very important, is that a lot of the worst stuff is happening when she's alone in her room. That's what I hear. That's when the really bad stuff tends to happen because they feel like they can talk to anyone. It's late at night. So I'll share with you my biggest regret about my own parenting.
Second point that I think you made, which is very important, is that a lot of the worst stuff is happening when she's alone in her room. That's what I hear. That's when the really bad stuff tends to happen because they feel like they can talk to anyone. It's late at night. So I'll share with you my biggest regret about my own parenting.
Second point that I think you made, which is very important, is that a lot of the worst stuff is happening when she's alone in her room. That's what I hear. That's when the really bad stuff tends to happen because they feel like they can talk to anyone. It's late at night. So I'll share with you my biggest regret about my own parenting.
I was so focused on social media, I didn't really think about the computer. And this was during COVID too, you know, they all had to have a computer. But here's the policy that I wish I had had, and I recommend this to everybody who has young kids especially, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I was so focused on social media, I didn't really think about the computer. And this was during COVID too, you know, they all had to have a computer. But here's the policy that I wish I had had, and I recommend this to everybody who has young kids especially, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.