Jonathan Haidt

Well, thank you, gentlemen. I hope your listeners will go to anxiousgeneration.com. We have a lot of resources for parents, for teachers, for legislators. This is a movement. And when you get millions and millions of parents, and especially the moms, I mean, the mothers around the world are just up in arms about this. When you get a movement of parents, I don't think we can be stopped.

It was 2018 after my previous book, The Calling of the American Mind.

It was 2018 after my previous book, The Calling of the American Mind.

It was 2018 after my previous book, The Calling of the American Mind.

Yes, seven years ago.

Yes, seven years ago.

Yes, seven years ago.

Yeah, it was one of my best conversations ever because we're sort of similar to each other in a lot of ways. But then we had this like fight and then we buried the hatchet.

Yeah, it was one of my best conversations ever because we're sort of similar to each other in a lot of ways. But then we had this like fight and then we buried the hatchet.

Yeah, it was one of my best conversations ever because we're sort of similar to each other in a lot of ways. But then we had this like fight and then we buried the hatchet.

So much.

So much.

So much.

Moral dumbfounding. Dumbfounding. That's the word. They're fun. They're good party tricks. Yeah. Do you have a favorite? Because we have a favorite. So there's the brother-sister incest story. Yeah, we love that. It's solid. Yeah. And then there's the eating your pet dog story. Those are really the two that are... Tell us that one. Oh, okay.

Moral dumbfounding. Dumbfounding. That's the word. They're fun. They're good party tricks. Yeah. Do you have a favorite? Because we have a favorite. So there's the brother-sister incest story. Yeah, we love that. It's solid. Yeah. And then there's the eating your pet dog story. Those are really the two that are... Tell us that one. Oh, okay.

Moral dumbfounding. Dumbfounding. That's the word. They're fun. They're good party tricks. Yeah. Do you have a favorite? Because we have a favorite. So there's the brother-sister incest story. Yeah, we love that. It's solid. Yeah. And then there's the eating your pet dog story. Those are really the two that are... Tell us that one. Oh, okay.

So the background here is that I was studying moral psychology as a graduate student at the University of Pennsylvania. And the big debate was, is moral judgment driven by gut feelings? Which the philosopher David Hume had said,

So the background here is that I was studying moral psychology as a graduate student at the University of Pennsylvania. And the big debate was, is moral judgment driven by gut feelings? Which the philosopher David Hume had said,

So the background here is that I was studying moral psychology as a graduate student at the University of Pennsylvania. And the big debate was, is moral judgment driven by gut feelings? Which the philosopher David Hume had said,

in which I was leaning towards, or is it driven more by reasoning about the facts of the matter, especially about harm, as Lawrence Kohlberg was the dominant researcher at the time. And since I'd been studying how morality varies across cultures, it just seemed like morality is about the body. And I ended up doing some research in India and reading a lot about Hinduism.